[AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015

Jacob Gardiner jacob at jacobgardiner.com
Tue Jan 6 13:11:54 EST 2015


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On Tuesday, January 6, 2015, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com>
wrote:

> Ignore my bipolar emails at the moment people.. just migrating.
>
> I don't know what you are asking Daniel... my eintellegonetworks and
> theispguy are completely different GoogleApps instances.... which I am in
> the middle of moving between.
>
> Speaking on which, if anyone has a hint on how to move a chunk of email
> (only Ausnog archive for example) from once Gmail to another... that would
> be nice :)
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
> --
>
> Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy
>
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> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Daniel <daniel at dwatson.me
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','daniel at dwatson.me');>> wrote:
>
>> Id also assume it would be best in your case Skeeve, as with your email
>> sig’s you can assign it to which ever +alias you are sending out from
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you were sending out from skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com');>
>> you can use your eintellegonetworks signature? And if you were using
>> TheISPGuy, you could use that sig on skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at theispguy.com');> ? :P
>>
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>> D.
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>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net');>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 6 January 2015 10:34 AM
>> *To:* Jacob Gardiner
>> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> I've found it not to be that accurate... whichever way.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect*
>>
>> eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>
>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com');>
>>
>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
>>
>> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile
>> <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9>
>>
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>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Jacob Gardiner <jacob at jacobgardiner.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jacob at jacobgardiner.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> Google/Gmail has a feature for mailing list filters, you don’t need to
>> use the + if you don’t want. Basically it sets up a filter for
>> list:”name.of.list” which you can pipe to a folder.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jacob Gardiner
>> @jacobgardiner <https://twitter.com/jacobgardiner>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 January 2015 at 10:22:05 am, Skeeve Stevens (
>> skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at theispguy.com');>) wrote:
>>
>> I love this... best feature I discovered of Gmail.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Go to Settings and accounts.  Add new account "
>> skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at theispguy.com');>"
>>  (notice the +alias)
>>
>>
>>
>> Note, you shouldn't need a code/verification if it is identical to your
>> current address with the +alias.  You can have a lot of these... I have
>> about 30 for different mailing lists.
>>
>>
>>
>> The +alias are ignored by Gmail, but awesome for adding filters for email
>> addressed to blah+ausnog - which allows good sorting.  You can also receive
>> email without adding the account, but need to add the account to send
>> from.  This is useful as you can make it up on the spot for signing up to
>> commercial emails... I like to use the to track who has distributed my
>> email address... so skeeve+woolworths at blah identifies the leak, and is
>> also easy to block in servers and filters.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. Once added you Go back to Inbox, then back into settings, and you will
>> be able to add a signature for the +alias
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Make sure under accounts under "When Replying to a message" you
>> choose: Reply from the same address the message was sent to setting so
>> that this is automatic.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. Unsubscribe from the mailing list and re-subscribe as your +alias or
>> change the email address if Mailman/Listserve softwareallows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy
>>
>> Email: skeeve at theispguy.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve at theispguy.com');> ; Twitter:
>> @TheISPGuy <https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy>
>>
>> Blog: TheISPGuy.com <http://theispguy.com/> ; Facebook: TheISPGuy
>> <https://www.facebook.com/theispguy>
>>
>> Linkedin: /in/skeeve <http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360:
>> Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rendrag at rendrag.net');>> wrote:
>>
>> Care to share HOW one gets Gmail to do this, for the rest of us? :)  I'm
>> sure I'm not the only one interested! :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 January 2015 at 22:59, Skeeve Stevens <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Done... oh Damnit!
>>
>>
>>
>> Like many others here on Gmail/Google Apps... it doesn't actually show me
>> my signature before I send it.. So I didn't notice.  Then I thought how do
>> I do a different one for a mailing list... and then realised I already
>> do... so fixed :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it's time to re-organise my email... hmmm.
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy*
>>
>> Email: skeeve at theispguy.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve at theispguy.com');> ; Twitter:
>> @TheISPGuy <https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy>
>>
>> Blog: TheISPGuy.com <http://theispguy.com/> ; Facebook: TheISPGuy
>> <https://www.facebook.com/theispguy>
>>
>> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile
>> <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9>
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brad at bradpeczka.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> On a slightly related note, to quote from the charter:
>>
>> (b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no fun seeing
>> signatures that are longer than your posts;
>>
>> How about it, Skeeve? :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Brad.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: AusNOG [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net');>] On
>> Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens [skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com');>]
>> Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 7:56 AM
>> To: David Hughes
>> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a premium list :)  i.e.
>> an Ausnog Premium 'Member'
>>
>> That would get rid of a lot of the space wasters...
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
>> eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com');><mailto:
>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com');>> ; Web:
>> eintellegonetworks.com<http://eintellegonetworks.com/>
>>
>> Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
>>
>> Facebook: eintellegonetworks<http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ;
>> Twitter: eintellego<https://twitter.com/eintellego>
>>
>> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile<
>> https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9>
>>
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>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','david at hughes.com.au');><mailto:
>> david at hughes.com.au <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','david at hughes.com.au');>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning and welcome to a new work year.  I hope everyone managed
>> some time off over the festive season.
>>
>> Over the last few months the quality of content on the AusNOG mailing
>> list has dropped appreciably.  It appears that some members of our
>> community misunderstand the purpose of the list and are using it in a
>> number of ways that are in breach of the list charter.  That cannot
>> continue.
>>
>> To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated the list
>> charter.  I'd ask that you all read the charter at the link below so that
>> everyone clearly understands the purpose of this list.
>>
>>         http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
>>
>> In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter, this list IS NOT to
>> be used for :
>>
>> * level 1 vendor specific tech support.  If there is a vendor / product
>> specific list or forum please use that.
>>
>> * name calling and other unprofessional behaviour
>>
>>
>> With regard to specific threads that occurred over the Christmas break,
>> I'm at a loss.  The conduct of some members hit a new low and that sort of
>> behaviour cannot continue.  As such some individuals have been warned about
>> their conduct and others are now being moderated.   Please be warned now
>> that from here on we will swiftly moderate members that ignore the
>> charter.  We will continue to moderate list members until the quality of
>> postings increases to an acceptable level.
>>
>> In response to being moderated, one list member responded with an email
>> along the lines of  "If you people were doing your job ....".  Can I just
>> remind everyone that we are a group of individuals who volunteer a few
>> man-weeks per year of work towards running the AusNOG Conference.  We also
>> facilitate this mailing list.  It is hardly "our job" to force the
>> "professionals" in our industry to act professionally.  We'll leave that to
>> each of you.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and I look forward to your cooperation and
>> assistance in getting this mailing list back on track.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board
>> ...
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');><mailto:
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');>>
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');>
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Damien Gardner Jnr
>> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
>> rendrag at rendrag.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rendrag at rendrag.net');>
>> -  http://www.rendrag.net/
>> --
>> We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
>>  We ran to the sounds of thunder.
>> We danced among the lightning bolts,
>>  and tore the world asunder
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');>
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');>
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');>
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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