[AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015

Damien Gardner Jnr rendrag at rendrag.net
Tue Jan 6 10:00:46 EST 2015


I was doing that up until about 12 months ago when I gave in and converted
to gmail - worked very nicely :)  multi-mailbox works nicely in mutt too,
just jump to the next mailbox with unread email and keep reading through
mail lists

On 6 January 2015 at 09:58, Patrick Cole <z at amused.net> wrote:

> Yeah, even a good text mail client deals with HTML OK if you configure it
> right.  I use mutt, for example, and have it pipe html parts through
> 'links' and
> display that.  Helps gets rid of a lot of the cruft too.
>
> Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 09:45:51AM +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
> >    I wanted to say this too, but I thought people would get grumpy....
> glad
> >    many others feel the same.
> >    If you have a problem with html, you need get a new browser or not
> load
> >    images.
> >    ...Skeeve
> >    Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
> >    eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> >    Email:A skeeve at eintellegonetworks.comA ; Web:A eintellegonetworks.com
> >
> >    Phone: 1300 239 038 ;A Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
> >
> >    Facebook:A eintellegonetworksA ; Twitter:A eintellego
> >
> >    LinkedIn:A /in/skeeveA ;A Expert360:A Profile
> >
> >    The Experts Who The Experts Call
> >    Juniper - CiscoA - Cumulus Linux - CloudA - ConsultingA - IPv4
> Brokering
> >    On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >      The 1990s called, they want their text-mode clients that can't cope
> with
> >      HTML back.
> >
> >      Seriously, this is still a thing in this day and age? Sure, you may
> >      choose to use a text-mode client. Just like you may choose to ride a
> >      horse to work - but we don't ask that people don'tA  drive past you
> for
> >      fear of scaring the horse...
> >
> >      On 06/01/2015 12:21 AM, "Mattia Rossi"
> >      <mattia.rossi.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >        Hmmm, you should also follow this one:
> >
> >        (d) Please don't post in HTML format - it tends to annoy people
> who
> >        read with text mode clients.
> >
> >        The most annoying bit of HTML messages is, if a message doesn't
> load
> >        on some crappy connection on the road, just because there's an
> image
> >        in the signature...
> >
> >        Cheers,
> >
> >        Mat
> >
> >        Am 05.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Skeeve Stevens:
> >
> >          Done... oh Damnit!
> >          Like many others here on Gmail/Google Apps... it doesn't
> actually
> >          show me my signature before I send it.. So I didn't notice.A
> Then I
> >          thought how do I do a different one for a mailing list... and
> then
> >          realised I already do... so fixed :)
> >          I think it's time to re-organise my email... hmmm.
> >          ...Skeeve
> >          Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy
> >
> >          Email:A skeeve at theispguy.comA ;A Twitter:A @TheISPGuy
> >
> >          Blog:A TheISPGuy.comA ; Facebook:A TheISPGuy
> >
> >          LinkedIn:A /in/skeeveA ;A Expert360:A Profile
> >
> >          On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Brad Peczka <
> brad at bradpeczka.com>
> >          wrote:
> >
> >            On a slightly related note, to quote from the charter:
> >
> >            (b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no fun
> seeing
> >            signatures that are longer than your posts;
> >
> >            How about it, Skeeve? :-)
> >
> >            Regards,
> >            -Brad.
> >            ________________________________________
> >            From: AusNOG [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> Skeeve
> >            Stevens [skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com]
> >            Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 7:56 AM
> >            To: David Hughes
> >            Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
> >            Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015
> >
> >            Hey,
> >
> >            Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a premium
> list
> >            :)A  i.e. an Ausnog Premium 'Member'
> >
> >            That would get rid of a lot of the space wasters...
> >
> >            ...Skeeve
> >
> >            Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
> >            eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> >            Email:
> >            skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com>
> >            ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com<http://eintellegonetworks.com/>
> >
> >            Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
> >
> >            Facebook:
> >            eintellegonetworks<http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ;
> >            Twitter: eintellego<https://twitter.com/eintellego>
> >
> >            LinkedIn: /in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ;
> Expert360:
> >            Profile<https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9>
> >
> >            [http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png]
> >            The Experts Who The Experts Call
> >            Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4
> >            Brokering
> >
> >            On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Hughes
> >            <david at hughes.com.au<mailto:david at hughes.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> >            Good morning and welcome to a new work year.A  I hope everyone
> >            managed some time off over the festive season.
> >
> >            Over the last few months the quality of content on the AusNOG
> >            mailing list has dropped appreciably.A  It appears that some
> >            members of our community misunderstand the purpose of the
> list and
> >            are using it in a number of ways that are in breach of the
> list
> >            charter.A  That cannot continue.
> >
> >            To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated the
> list
> >            charter.A  I'd ask that you all read the charter at the link
> below
> >            so that everyone clearly understands the purpose of this list.
> >
> >            A  A  A  A  http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
> >
> >            In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter, this
> list IS
> >            NOT to be used for :
> >
> >            * level 1 vendor specific tech support.A  If there is a
> vendor /
> >            product specific list or forum please use that.
> >
> >            * name calling and other unprofessional behaviour
> >
> >            With regard to specific threads that occurred over the
> Christmas
> >            break, I'm at a loss.A  The conduct of some members hit a new
> low
> >            and that sort of behaviour cannot continue.A  As such some
> >            individuals have been warned about their conduct and others
> are
> >            now being moderated.A  A Please be warned now that from here
> on we
> >            will swiftly moderate members that ignore the charter.A  We
> will
> >            continue to moderate list members until the quality of
> postings
> >            increases to an acceptable level.
> >
> >            In response to being moderated, one list member responded
> with an
> >            email along the lines ofA  "If you people were doing your job
> >            ....".A  Can I just remind everyone that we are a group of
> >            individuals who volunteer a few man-weeks per year of work
> towards
> >            running the AusNOG Conference.A  We also facilitate this
> mailing
> >            list.A  It is hardly "our job" to force the "professionals"
> in our
> >            industry to act professionally.A  We'll leave that to each of
> you.
> >
> >            Thanks for your time and I look forward to your cooperation
> and
> >            assistance in getting this mailing list back on track.
> >
> >            Thanks
> >
> >            David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board
> >            ...
> >
> >            _______________________________________________
> >            AusNOG mailing list
> >            AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> >            http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
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> >
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>
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>
>
> --
> Patrick Cole <z at wwwires.com>
> Senior Network Specialist
> World Without Wires
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Damien Gardner Jnr
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rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
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 We ran to the sounds of thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
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