[AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015

Tue Jan 6 09:18:51 EST 2015

Hi all,

That part of the charter was written in 2005/6 (?) and that was ripped off
the NANOG Charter which was written in the 90¹s before Gmail and the
pervasiveness of HTML email.  The list was still mostly read using Pine :)

I think it is commonly understood that a decade later that things have
progressed with html, but people should try to avoid sigs with embedded
images being sent to the list where possible.  It is a courtesy and if
someone does it and often, then maybe just ask a moderator to shoot them a
polite message off-list.

I think that thread is now done.

Cheers

[b]

From:  "hudrob at gmail.com" <hudrob at gmail.com>
Date:  Tuesday, 6 January 2015 6:34 am
To:  "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject:  Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015

The 1990s called, they want their text-mode clients that can't cope with
HTML back.

Seriously, this is still a thing in this day and age? Sure, you may choose
to use a text-mode client. Just like you may choose to ride a horse to work
- but we don't ask that people don't  drive past you for fear of scaring the
horse...

On 06/01/2015 12:21 AM, "Mattia Rossi" <mattia.rossi.mailinglists at gmail.com>
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>  Hmmm, you should also follow this one:
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>  (d) Please don't post in HTML format - it tends to annoy people who
>  read with text mode clients.
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>  The most annoying bit of HTML messages is, if a message doesn't load on some
> crappy connection on the road, just because there's an image in the
> signature...
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>  Cheers,
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>  Mat
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> Am 05.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Skeeve Stevens:
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>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Brad Peczka <brad at bradpeczka.com> wrote:
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>>> On a slightly related note, to quote from the charter:
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>>>  (b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no fun seeing
>>> signatures that are longer than your posts;
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>>>  How about it, Skeeve? :-)
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>>>  Regards,
>>>  -Brad.
>>>  ________________________________________
>>>  From: AusNOG [ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
>>> [skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>>> <mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> ]
>>>  Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 7:56 AM
>>>  To: David Hughes
>>>  Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
>>>  Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015
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>>>  Hey,
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>>>  Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a premium list :)  i.e.
>>> an Ausnog Premium 'Member'
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>>>  That would get rid of a lot of the space wasters...
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>>>  ...Skeeve
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>>>  Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect
>>>  eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>  Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com>
>>> ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com <http://eintellegonetworks.com>
>>> <http://eintellegonetworks.com/>
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>>>  Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
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>>>  LinkedIn: /in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360:
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>>>  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Hughes
>>> <david at hughes.com.au<mailto:david at hughes.com.au>> wrote:
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>>>  Good morning and welcome to a new work year.  I hope everyone managed some
>>> time off over the festive season.
>>>  
>>>  Over the last few months the quality of content on the AusNOG mailing list
>>> has dropped appreciably.  It appears that some members of our community
>>> misunderstand the purpose of the list and are using it in a number of ways
>>> that are in breach of the list charter.  That cannot continue.
>>>  
>>>  To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated the list charter.
>>> I'd ask that you all read the charter at the link below so that everyone
>>> clearly understands the purpose of this list.
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>>>          http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
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>>>  In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter, this list IS NOT to be
>>> used for :
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>>>  * level 1 vendor specific tech support.  If there is a vendor / product
>>> specific list or forum please use that.
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>>>  * name calling and other unprofessional behaviour
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>>>  With regard to specific threads that occurred over the Christmas break, I'm
>>> at a loss.  The conduct of some members hit a new low and that sort of
>>> behaviour cannot continue.  As such some individuals have been warned about
>>> their conduct and others are now being moderated.   Please be warned now
>>> that from here on we will swiftly moderate members that ignore the charter.
>>> We will continue to moderate list members until the quality of postings
>>> increases to an acceptable level.
>>>  
>>>  In response to being moderated, one list member responded with an email
>>> along the lines of  "If you people were doing your job ....".  Can I just
>>> remind everyone that we are a group of individuals who volunteer a few
>>> man-weeks per year of work towards running the AusNOG Conference.  We also
>>> facilitate this mailing list.  It is hardly "our job" to force the
>>> "professionals" in our industry to act professionally.  We'll leave that to
>>> each of you.
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>>>  Thanks for your time and I look forward to your cooperation and assistance
>>> in getting this mailing list back on track.
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>>>  Thanks
>>>  
>>>  David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board
>>>  ...
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