[AusNOG] "ISPs agree to graduated warnings for pirates"

[Rod Veith]

Thanks for the French law reference. A quick google search turned up this titbit:

French HADOPI Law - similar to the scheme proposed here. Law started in 2009, withdrawn in 2013.

Copied this excerpt from Wikipedia:
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Abrogation of the Hadopi law

On 9 July 2013, the French Ministry of Culture published official decree No. 0157, removing from the law "the additional misdemeanor punishable by suspension of access to a communication service."[18] allegedly because "the three strikes mechanism had failed to benefit authorized services as promised". ...................

The French Culture Minister Aurélie Filippetti explained that the financial costs to the French Government in applying the Hadopi Law was not sound. She disclosed that it cost her Ministry 12 million Euros and 60 civil servants to send 1 million e-mails to copyright infringers and 99,000 registered letters, with only 134 cases examined for prosecution.
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Rod

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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 9:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "ISPs agree to graduated warnings for pirates"

Thanks for your Post Kevin, Welcome.

Wow 10M Euro/year and under 10 people implicated. This is starting to sound like the "War on drugs" to me.

Matt.



On 24/02/2015 4:45 am, Kevin CHEUNG HING wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am a french how follow that list for a while, so I hope I won’t make a mistake, the first time I post here.
>
> So about the subject, we have that in France for several years now. Conclusion, USELESS.
>
> The technique is only for Bittorent.
> A private society watch on BT a limited list of music and movie, and download a bit as proof. They send that to the Hadopi which ask ISP for the owner of IP, this mean the name on the bill.
> - First warning they send an email on the ISP email but some people never use it.
> - Second, by post.
> - Third, justice.
>
> Here the story of HADOPI, the administration which track the pirates.
> Some french internet association warned the politics about the problem done by tracking, the main one was the technical impossibility to do it on the long term because of direct download and VPN.
> So after years and a budget of around 10 millions euro/year, they condemned just few people (under 10). The objective was 10000/year and fearing people to stop to download.
> Indeed, the piracy almost stop in france … on BT, so right owner claim 
> their victory … but DDL HTTP/S and a bit of VPN weren’t so far, isn’t 
> it … Of course, we have the DPI as solution, Qosmos, a DPI leading 
> french company (think libya …) was interested … but we changed our 
> president about two years ago and now the Hadopi have a budget of 
> 6ME/Y and start firing employee. It’s dying and pirates laugh …
>
> If you have question ;)