[AusNOG] "ISPs agree to graduated warnings for pirates"

[Joseph Goldman]

Hi Kevin, 

You did perfect with your post and that is a great comparison to hear about, thanks for your input! Was quite interesting (I had no idea it existed in France, or anywhere in the world). 

Thanks, 
Joe

On 24 February 2015 4:45:50 am LHDT, Kevin CHEUNG HING <cheungh.kevin at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am a french how follow that list for a while, so I hope I won’t make
>a mistake, the first time I post here.
>
>So about the subject, we have that in France for several years now.
>Conclusion, USELESS.
>
>The technique is only for Bittorent.
>A private society watch on BT a limited list of music and movie, and
>download a bit as proof. They send that to the Hadopi which ask ISP for
>the owner of IP, this mean the name on the bill.
>- First warning they send an email on the ISP email but some people
>never use it.
>- Second, by post.
>- Third, justice.
>
>Here the story of HADOPI, the administration which track the pirates.
>Some french internet association warned the politics about the problem
>done by tracking, the main one was the technical impossibility to do it
>on the long term because of direct download and VPN.
>So after years and a budget of around 10 millions euro/year, they
>condemned just few people (under 10). The objective was 10000/year and
>fearing people to stop to download.
>Indeed, the piracy almost stop in france … on BT, so right owner claim
>their victory … but DDL HTTP/S and a bit of VPN weren’t so far, isn’t
>it …
>Of course, we have the DPI as solution, Qosmos, a DPI leading french
>company (think libya …) was interested … but we changed our president
>about two years ago and now the Hadopi have a budget of 6ME/Y and start
>firing employee. It’s dying and pirates laugh …
>
>If you have question ;)
>
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