[AusNOG] IP Blocks

Tue Feb 17 12:41:16 EST 2015

I thought the multi-homing requirement only applied if you were applying specifically via the small multi-homing delegation policy?

Historically this was an issue when you only needed a /24 for multi-homing, but you didn’t meet the requirements for a full allocation when the minimum initial allocation size was a /21 or so.

The criteria for an initial LIR delegation don’t seem to mention multi-homing:

3.1.    Criteria for initial LIR delegation
To be eligible, an LIR must:

  *   Have used a /24 from their upstream provider or demonstrate an immediate need for a /24,
  *   Have complied with applicable policies in managing all address space previously delegated to it (including historical delegations), and
  *   Demonstrate a detailed plan for use of a /23 within a year
http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy#initial

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Tim

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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2015 1:46 AM
To: Damien Gardner Jnr
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IP Blocks

Actually, that should change soon... I hope.

Aftab and I have a policy going up at APNIC in a couple of weeks to remove the multi-homing requirement.

But... being multi-homed isn't hard... c'mon, if you really need the IP's, I'd go to the effort of jumping on some peering as well.

...Skeeve

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net<mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net>> wrote:
If you're only buying transit from one provider, then you're correct, you're not eligible - your upstream provider has to provide the IP's.   However if you are buying (*cough* or have the intention to buy *cough*) transit from multiple providers, then quickly throw together a network map, a 6/12/24-month business growth outlook (WRT IP Usage), pull out your credit card, and spend the 15 minutes it takes to put in the APNIC application :)

I had a client pay a rather large bill at 11pm on the 30th of June last year (unexpectedly, wasn't expecting it for a week or so) so ended up going through the process, and paid the fees at 11:59pm.   Had a reply from Elly at 1pm on the 1st, asking me to clarify a couple of details, and agree to the no-transfer-of-resources-for-12-months rule, replied at 2pm, and then at 4pm on the 2nd, I had my /22 :)

It was surprisingly SO much less painful than when I requested a /20 for my employer back in 2001.  (And in that instance, we were handing back a 22 x /24's of Telstra space, while moving to MCT (who were totally flabbergasted when we asked for a /20 from them, since we weren't technically eligible for APNIC resources, as we were *moving* from Telstra to MCT - as it turned out, they only had a /23 at the time!)

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On 16 February 2015 at 19:15, Matthew Enger <m.enger at xi.com.au<mailto:m.enger at xi.com.au>> wrote:
Thanks Ross & Nathan,

No, I don’t have my initial allocation. I started applying and I was getting the impression I am not eligible.

After re-reading I believe I am.

Basically I am looking at getting a rack in a data centre, provider is supplying internet with a /30 and told me to goto apnic for more ip addresses.

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Matthew Enger

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From: "Ross [Eve IT]" <ross at eve-it.net<mailto:ross at eve-it.net>>
Date: Monday, 16 February 2015 7:03 pm
To: Matthew Enger <m.enger at xi.com.au<mailto:m.enger at xi.com.au>>
Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IP Blocks

Hi Matthew,
In case you didn't know (I didn't)...

==
 As APNIC is delegating from the final IPv4 /8 block (103/8),
APNIC account holders are only eligible to receive one /22 from
this block. Account holders may request an additional /22 from
the remaining APNIC IPv4 address pool.

Once an account holder has received in total a /21 they are not
eligible to receive any additional IPv4 address space.
==

Depends on how many and when you got your IPv4 allocation, have a chat to APNIC.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Matthew Enger <m.enger at xi.com.au<mailto:m.enger at xi.com.au>> wrote:
Hello,

I am currently looking at obtaining ip addresses but I am looking for small block of around 1024 or smaller. I had a look online and the brokers seem to be only interested in 4096 as a minimum.

Anyone able to point me in the right direction?

Regards,

Matthew Enger

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