[AusNOG] Pipe hiccup in Melbourne

[Mark Tees]

I guess I shouldn't specifically be pointing at communications cable
pipes but more at utilities in the street in general.

If a sizeable tunnel was built on either side of roads where all the
common utilities go, would that prevent much extra civil work in terms
of drilling or roads getting torn up? Also, would it equate to any
savings in road repairs later on down the track? Would it mean higher
costs because contractors have to be further qualified to work around
pipes for gas/power also?

I guess I just notice the road getting torn up so often in
Sydney/Melbourne that I wonder about these things.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Sam Silvester <sam.silvester at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Mark Tees <marktees at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Surely, councils could benefit by some sort of shared tunnel renting
>> scheme? I know in Sydney city there is tunnel space rented from Telstra etc.
>>
>> I know, I know, fairy land thoughts thinking that people might be able to
>> work together to avoid additional work.
>>
>>
>
> I've seen a few attempts at this (e.g. councils either installing pit and
> pipe with the intention of it being used by other carriers / businesses, or
> allowing their own to be used). In my experience it's is rare for it to be
> the 'first option' however - either due to the costs and process involved,
> or limited space in the duct in question, or it just not being in a useful
> location. YMMV as always.
>
> I'm aware of at least a couple of data centres where shared lead in pits are
> installed to minimise the number of building entries needing to be built,
> but it really comes down to the design of the facility and if they are
> aiming to make 3rd party carriers welcome or not :)
>
> Also, co-builds are certainly a thing also to split the cost of a large
> civils build.
>
> So to a point, your suggestion is actually happening. You'd possibly be
> surprised at how much cooperation does happen, but it isn't always
> necessarily that visible.
>
> Sam
>
>
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Regards,

Mark L. Tees