[AusNOG] *Off Topic * Pricing for Going Direct To NBN Co (vs, Aggregator)

[David Hughes]

While a discussion on NBN interconnection etc is on topic, the legal structure of a NFP or Co Op is stretching the charter.  Please pull this back on topic.



Thanks

David - on behalf of the moderators.
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On 07/12/2015, at 1:55 PM, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

> Yes, I understand that fact, but im not saying it will be that way because of law, it would ideally be that way for the 'purpose' of the whole thing, i.e. cover only what needs to be covered, to deliver access to the NBN at a cheaper price than aggregators who are priced to cover what needs to be covered, plus make a proper commercial profit.
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> It would also stand to reason that the members who benefit from the whole thing would be willing to submit time and effort for it, which could save significantly on staffing and some other resources.
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> On 07/12/15 14:39, Will Dowling wrote:
>>> The feeling would be that with the combined market share it would make it more viable, and the nature of it being non-profit would mean it is priced only to basically cover its own running costs and no further, which would separate from aggregators who would price it to cover running costs, cover staff, cover overheads and make a profit. It would have competitive advantage over some things such as shared members knowledge, rather than expensive staff members or consultants, donated time, spread out 'staffing' as you could call on members to do hands on at their local POI for the good of the association, etc etc.
>> As per Chad’s comments, the only thing that makes a company or association “not for profit” according to the ATO is how income is distributed to shareholders/members.
>> https://www.ato.gov.au/Non-profit/Getting-started/Is-your-organisation-not-for-profit-/
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>> There’s nothing stopping an NFP from employing staff or making a profit.
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>> Moreover, like any other business - you’ll NEED to turn a profit so you can cover future investment back into the organisation and services.
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>> Clarifying because this is a pet peeve of mine :)
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>> 
>> - Will
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