[AusNOG] Looks like a total beast but would you dare run your core network on it?

[Matt Keen]

So did I, many apppologies.

Looking around, looks like licensing is not in place for CHR yet, they are classifying it 'beta' still.
Hopefully that is rectified soon.

Matthew Keen
Senior Network Engineer
Comwire IT Pty Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker [mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 5:53 AM
To: Matt Keen <matt at comwireit.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net; matt at shakesbeare.com
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast but would you dare run your core network on it?

Yes i missed the chr texted. thats dissapointing.

Have to see what the licensing model is for the chr..


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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Richards [matt at shakesbeare.com]
Received: Tuesday, 25 Aug 2015, 6:07
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast but would you dare run your core network on it?


VMXNET3 is only supported in the "Cloud Hosted Router" version, which currently isn't suitable for production use (limited to 1Mbps). VMXNET3 (and the other virtualisation drivers) are *NOT* included in the standard x86 version, and probably never will be.

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=98981

Regards,
Matt.


On 24/08/2015 5:45 p.m., Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:
Oh..... I was on 29.2 ....

THANK YOU

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt Keen
Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:38 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast but would you dare run your core network on it?

VMXNet 3 is supported as of 6.31 (14th Aug Release)

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=99531

Matthew Keen
Senior Network Engineer
Comwire IT Pty Ltd

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 2:48 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast but would you dare run your core network on it?

Hi

Got 6 of the CCR1036-8G-2Splus
Same points as below
Limit to 1Gb/s tcp stream, but with multistreams or udp I have pushed up to 9.8Gbs BFD issue

I like them, I would like for them to make the RouterOS VM;s vmware aware and use the vmxnet3 nics, then I could be really happy with Mikrotek.

A


From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Goldman
Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:01 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast but would you dare run your core network on it?

Mikrotik's have been discussed for a while - plenty are using at the edge, some are using at the core. I personally use CCR1036-8G-2Splus at my core, which use the same CPU architecture as the 1072 just less cores, and different interface options.

I haven't had much issue with them, but I also pick and choose my software releases, and don't configure new (or unused) features on production to avoid bugs.

I run 2 with as much active-active and failover redundancy as I can, and the cost of the 2 ($3k~) still far cheaper than a couple of Cisco routers for my networks ~500mbit / 200kpps throughput. (1 router is currently doing most of that work sitting at 10-15% CPU with conntracking + firewall mangle rules + about 10 simple queues)

The biggest problem is multi-threaded use for some of the important processes in them, BGP being the main one, and single TCP stream being the other. They each seem to be limited to a single core at a time so importing full tables and updates/withdraws can take a bit to propagate in the route table. TCP single stream only seems to be able to get to 1gbps, again seems to be a single core restriction.

ROSv7 is meant to fix a lot of this but still in alpha stage, no public betas even heard of yet.
On 24/08/15 14:48, James Mcintosh wrote:
<http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus>http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus

With equivalent gear from Cisco costing 10x or more might it be worth taking a chance?

If not what else similar is this alternative. I don't mind paying a premium for quality but 10x is a bit ridiculous...


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