[AusNOG] Interstate Networking

[Mark Tees]

I would say there are plenty of providers around that be very competitive
for MPLS VPNs. MPLS and QOS are easy to add to any business grade ethernet
tail.

It comes down to whether you want the responsibility of running the core
network.


On Friday, August 21, 2015, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:

> A model I recently pushed to my employer was as follows:
>
> Rack/s in a commercial datacentre in each capital city.  Dark fibre or L2
> service between office in each city and the datacentre.  Megaport for
> bandwidth between cities (your racks need to be in datacentres which are
> on-net for Megaport).  SuperLoop as a dark fibre provider are related to
> Megaport.  If you don't want to deal with the underlying providers
> directly, there's a few businesses out there that will effectively bundle
> the services you require into a single service (some are on this list and
> will, I suspect, speak up).
>
> My employer is currently part way there already.  I recently picked up a
> dark fibre link between Mascot and the Sydney CBD for something like $1500
> a month, over which we'll run 10Gbps.  Add a disparate path service for
> about the same, and you''re looking at highly reliable L1 connectivity for
> < $3k a month (and given what I know you'd pay for L2 services, let alone
> MPLS, that is stupidly cheap - we were paying $3k per month for a 10Mbps
> MPLS link with QoS, and $2200 a month for a 100Mbps L2 service) - about the
> only thing that can go wrong with it is some idiot digs it up - and that's
> why you have disparate path.  We then pay just over $1k a month for a
> 100Mbps Internet link in the datacentre (and that's all we can eat).
>
> We could easily have gone into one of the DCs closer to Mascot had we not
> been contractually obligated to stay in the Sydney CBD for the next 12
> months, and then we'd have paid less for the dark fibre.  We've moved
> everything but access-layer switches from the office to the datacentre and
> have drastically cut the cost of running our IT infrastructure (a few $k a
> month for rack space, verses the cost of hosting and running it all
> yourself, you'd be surprised how quickly having rackspace in a dedicated
> datacentre becomes cheaper than doing it properly yourself in your office).
>
> With dark fibre being so cheap these days, and services like Megaport
> offering significant bandwidth at prices that even 12 months ago people
> thought was simply un-achievable, the old paradigms of corporate network
> connectivity are starting to break down.  It's only going to get more
> interesting when locations such as Singapore, Hong Kong and India
> (regionally) start getting connected into networks such as Megaport, let
> alone the US and Europe.
>
> On 21 August 2015 at 14:41, Andrew Hawken <ahawken at roycesoftware.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ahawken at roycesoftware.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Looking for some recommendations / discussion (not potential candidate
>> providers just yet) with regards to interstate networking.
>>
>> My employer currently has an office in every state of Australia. Each
>> office currently has an ADSL or EFM service (don't worry about why ADSL or
>> EFM). The router at each location is connected back to HQ in Melbourne via
>> a VPN tunnel. Each office is using the same ISP, however, we'd prefer
>> something much more direct between each state office and HQ. Think 'hub and
>> spoke'.
>>
>> Each office is pretty much in the middle of the CBD of each capital city.
>>
>> Not really concerned about costs or technology (they'll play a factor
>> later) at this stage. I'm more concerned about discovering a good way (or
>> the best way) to link all our offices together. Reliability must be key.
>> Secondarily, an allowance for generous data and high speed bandwidth should
>> be considered.
>>
>> Looking forward to the discussion :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Hawken
>> linkedin.com/in/AndrewHawken
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net');>
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>>
>

-- 
Regards,

Mark L. Tees
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20150821/c52185a2/attachment.html>