[AusNOG] ***SPAM***Re: DL140 Servers or Similar

[Mark Smith]

On 14 August 2015 at 17:23, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au> wrote:
> On 13/08/15 19:05, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> The card was manufactured by the same people who wrote the software and it
> does video matrix/distribution switching with a proprietary interface and
> also a bastardised sort of RS485. All I know is that it doesnt work in the
> virtual environments, and even if it did, I have now been told that they
> would not support it even if it did. So we have too keep the existing
> servers running which is what we will be doing now.
>

So I was going to say that while I don't think you or your customer
are able to put the complete onus on them, I would be challenging them
on why they're still expecting you to run a >13 year old OS to run the
application, and what are they doing forcing people to buy old
hardware to run it.

But then I remembered you said your customer is moving away from it in
something like a year, so buying old hardware is a short term interim
solution.

> Shane
>
>
>> Sounds like it could be a serial card for data logging or video capture,
>> any of those types of things.
>>
>> Not unusual.
>>
>> Nathan Brookfield
>> Chief Executive Officer
>>
>> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>> http://www.simtronic.com.au
>>
>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:51, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Vnet fcs for control networks.  Barely supported on cisco switches.
>>
>> Most control and SIS networks don't support any virtualisation if
>> there's a dedicated network card to speak some non IEEE protocol. Thank
>> goodness for modbus and dmp3.
>>
>> On 13/08/2015 6:50 PM, "Geordie Guy" <elomis at gmail.com
>> <mailto:elomis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     What sort of card doesn't support paravirtualisation?
>>
>>     On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au
>>     <mailto:shane at 2000cn.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 13/08/15 14:07, Mark Smith wrote:
>>
>>         Thanks to all who have replied. We have plenty of options to go
>>         with now.
>>
>>         I wish that I could virtualise them, but unfortunately the
>>         software is propriety and requires direct hardware access to a
>>         card which does not work via virtualisation.
>>
>>         --
>>         Regards
>>
>>         Shane Chrisp
>>         2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
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>>
>>
>>
>>>         You'd be better off virtualising them. You're going to be
>>>         starting to hit the steep part of the bathtub curve with any
>>>         XP compatible hardware you buy from note on. The bathtub curve
>>>         is widely used in reliability engineering. It describes a
>>>         particular form of the hazard function which comprises three
>>>         parts:
>>>
>>>         "Bathtub curve" on @Wikipedia:
>>>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve?wprov=sfia1
>>>
>>>         Hi All,
>>>
>>>          Sorry for the interruption to the normal programming, but I
>>>         have a client with a proprietary application running on a
>>>         whole bunch of DL140 servers that are starting to fail or
>>>         become unreliable. The software is running on Win XP and has
>>>         to stay this way for at least another 12 months. So we are
>>>         looking for some servers that are XP compatible and I thought
>>>         I would try the list first in case anyone has some old servers
>>>         or spares around that they would like to off load before I go
>>>         digging around on ebay. The only requirement is that they have
>>>         a free PCI-E port for a full height card.
>>>
>>>         I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. :)
>>>
>>>         --
>>>         Regards
>>>
>>>         Shane Chrisp
>>>         2000 Computers & Networks Pty Ltd
>>>         Suite 6, 49 Hay St, Subiaco, WA 6008
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>>>         <tel:08%206298%207393>
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