[AusNOG] Optus wants Netflix to pay up to ensure quality video streaming

[Mark ZZZ Smith]

Nobody has stopped Google doing it with Youtube video quality:


https://www.google.com/get/videoqualityreport/


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From: "Tom.Minchin at csiro.au" <Tom.Minchin at csiro.au>
To: ABeeson at csu.edu.au; patrick at aushack.com 
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015, 15:40
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus wants Netflix to pay up to ensure    quality    video    streaming



Has been pointed out to me that lawyers arrived shortly after at Netflix and that warning isn’t shown anymore…
 


From:Beeson, Ayden [mailto:ABeeson at csu.edu.au] 
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 3:32 PM
To: Minchin, Tom (IM&T, Yarralumla); 'patrick at aushack.com'
Cc: 'ausnog at lists.ausnog.net'
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Optus wants Netflix to pay up to ensure quality video streaming
 
I had heard they do that in the states, interesting as I have yet to see that myself.
 
My ISP is currently having major congestion issues during the nights at peak time, with my Youtube streaming not working at all if the quality is anything watchable (and sometimes not even with the lowest quality), my Netflix streaming tunes itself down much more gracefully (likely due to h.265 being used) but it has definitely dropped down to below SD quality before and I have not received any kind of warning / error like this.
 
Maybe it’s something they will turn on once they are more established, or maybe my connection just hasn’t gotten bad enough for this yet.
 
Thanks,
Ayden Beeson 
 
From:Tom.Minchin at csiro.au [mailto:Tom.Minchin at csiro.au] 
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 3:28 PM
To: Beeson, Ayden; patrick at aushack.com
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Optus wants Netflix to pay up to ensure quality video streaming
 
Netflix already do something similar in the US with notifying users of network congestion – ie “your ISP is bad and you should feel bad”
 
http://gizmodo.com/netflix-lets-you-know-when-your-bad-stream-is-verizons-1585899837
 
There is only one Netflix with the content – and there are many ISPs to choose from.
 
Tom
 
From:AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Beeson, Ayden
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 3:10 PM
To: 'Patrick Webster'
Cc: 'AusNOG'
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus wants Netflix to pay up to ensure quality video streaming
 
Because Google / YouTube are too big to possibly make that request to without the reaction outweighing the benefit.
 
Google already make a pretty good show of which ISP’s are bad for streaming when you get a slow connection, if an ISP was making a real point of it I’d imagine the reaction from Google would be far worse than just a “how slow is your ISP when” graph you get now.
 
They have been pretty vocal in the US as well advocating for net neutrality, I’m sure AU ISP’s would love to steer clear of that happening here.
 
Then again, I’d have said the same about Netflix and yet here we are.
 
Thanks,
Ayden Beeson 
 
From:AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Webster
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 2:54 PM
Cc: AusNOG
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus wants Netflix to pay up to ensure quality video streaming
 
Then why does Optus not ask Google to pay for YouTube QoS?
-Patrick
 
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