[AusNOG] IPv6

[Russell Langton]

Hi Brent,

Like most users on this list, I represent myself using a personal email
address and any comments are my personal opinions and no way reflect any
employer views.

Like most employees of companies on this list, I don't share anything that
is not already public.
The chances of any sensitive data or time-frames being revealed on a public
list by anyone is low ;)

For your feedback, I can take that on-board to see if the right people can
write up the correct things for public consumption.

For the Telstra Ipv6 - You saw the representatives of Telstra Mobiles at
apricot 39 (Feb-March 2015) recently right where they were discussing
Telstra Mobiles ipv6 deployment?
Heres the links;
https://conference.apnic.net/data/39/yeung.-s-ipv6-single-stack-now-or-later-apricot2015_1425125733.pdf
https://conference.apnic.net/data/39/4-yeung.-s-apipv6tf-apricot2015_1425125845.pdf

Telstra was also there in 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oStlNQm8je0
https://2014.apricot.net/program#session/66936
https://conference.apnic.net/data/37/yeung.-s-ipv6-in-mobile-networks-tutorial-apnic37_1392858312.pdf

Telstra was also part of the presentations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9w80qoU6r8
and also the round table - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVjfWSArBFA







On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Brent Paddon <brent.paddon at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Russell,
>
> I believe you represent Telstra ? - are you prepared to share what Telstra
> is doing in this regard? - especially around end users (bigpond / mobile /
> etc).
>
> There were a number of public comments made years ago and since then its
> been silence.
>
> Brent
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think this discussion could continue for a while with everyone's
>> different opinions........
>>
>> Lets start looking forward;
>> While on the subject on Ipv6 deployments, If you have not started a Ipv6
>> deployment for your network  - I wonder if anyone can comment about whats
>> holding them back?
>> Is it upstream connectivity/legacy devices/lack of business
>> driver/time/training/testing etc.
>>
>> Might be interesting to see what is the feedback from the industry.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Mark ZZZ Smith <
>> markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Mark Delany <g2x at juliet.emu.st>
>>> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 April 2015, 10:20
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] IPv6
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/04/2015 9:20 AM, "Mark Delany" <g2x at juliet.emu.st> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 01Apr15, Mark Andrews allegedly wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > In message <CAOu9xNJbkKhU3DbTjmX1LG5hcpx+uS-6XxOjajd3rS=
>>> wHEurFg at mail.gmail.com>, Robert Hudson writes:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Right now, it seems that some ISPs/carriers are deciding to invest
>>> in
>>> > > > NAT/PAT (or CGN, if that's really a thing) rather than IPv6.  Why?
>>> >
>>> > > No, its been selected because ISPs as a whole have procastinated
>>> > > about delivering IPv6
>>> >
>>> > Not sure it's an either/or situation. Even if you deploy IPv6
>>> > everywhere you still have to offer IPv4 reachability for your
>>> > customers.
>>> >
>>> > Hopefully what Robert is observing is not an alternative to IPv6,
>>> > rather it's a means of giving customers access to those recalcitrant
>>> > IPv4-only destinations.
>>> That was my point. Even if an ISP offers IPv6 to 100% of its customers,
>>> it still needs to offer IPv4 to practically 100% of its customers as well,
>>> because there's a lot of systems/software/tools out there that don't yet
>>> speak IPv6.
>>>
>>> / So nobody here who is advocating deploying IPv6 is saying (or has
>>> said) to switch off IPv4 at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On the bright side, the more IPv6 you deploy the less traffic will
>>> > need to pass through your CGN. IOWs, deploying IPV6 could actually
>>> > save you some coin!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mark.
>>> >
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