[AusNOG] George Brandis - Be Warned

[Nick Gale]

Its a people and process problem we have not a technology one. Successive
governments of any persuasion seem to think its a technology problem. Its
not like the current threat level wasn't manufactured by the government in
the first place to allow them an easy way to pass what would otherwise be
unpopular laws without too much uproar.

Whats needed is a massive change in the political landscape to parties with
more balanced ideas that incorporate people, process and technology when it
comes to creating laws for the digital world and how to interact there.
That won't happen with people who don't understand the environment with
which they are dealing. Neither major party seems to want to employ people
like that at the moment and so the situation will continue.

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*Nick Gale*

P Please consider the environment before you print this email.

On 30 September 2014 07:30, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com> wrote:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> > Mark ZZZ Smith
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2014 7:58 AM
> > To: Jake Anderson; Mark Newton; Paul Wallace
> > Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] George Brandis - Be Warned
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com>
> > >To: Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>; Paul Wallace
> > <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>
> > >Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> > >Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014, 20:13
> > >Subject: Re: [AusNOG] George Brandis - Be Warned
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >You had your democracy a year ago.
> >
> > Your memory is either selective or short.
> >
> > "Internet censorship plan gets the green light"
> > http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/internet-
> > censorship-plan-gets-the-green-light-20091215-ktzc.html
> >
> > "Conroy will be censoring people, not the internet"
> >
> > http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/conroy-will-be-
> > censoring-people-not-the-internet-20091217-kzxl.html#ixzz3EkAibY9v
> >
> > "Tanya Plibersek: we would give spies more tools to fight domestic
> terror"
> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/30/labor-spies-tools-terror-
> > plibersek
> >
> > With both major parties being FUD'd into supporting these ideas by LEAs,
> > despite the evidence of the abuse of them by various overseas agencies,
> it
> > being passed was inevitable. It was a lost battle, and it is only worth
> fighting
> > battles that you have a chance of winning.
>
> It’s the old boys club with LNP and Labor members
>
>
> >
> > Now, to try to drag this back on topic. How many people here are actively
> > trying to use encryption when they can? How many websites have you
> > HTTPS/HSTS enabled?
>
> Try and use https everywhere, but isn't the problem though they can get
> warrant's taps on the end points. So we stop them looking at info on the
> wire.
>
> A
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Now let our duly appointed tyrants do their job and stop moaning
> >       about it (or they might find a way to put you in jail for
> >       supporting the terrorists).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 29/09/14 16:59, Mark Newton wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >1. Greater regulation is coming our way & "that's life" as they say.
> > >
> > >
> > That isn’t actually life, unless you bend over and let it happen.
> > >
> > >
> > >  - mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
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