[AusNOG] George Brandis - Be Warned

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Sun Sep 28 15:31:31 EST 2014


Yes, but their policy/law decisions have huge operational impact on the
Operators...


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On 28 September 2014 10:47, Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

> I think you've forgotten what the AusNOG acronym stands for or forgotten
> what is in the charter - it's the Australian Network *O*perator's *G*roup.
> It's fundamentally a technical group.
>
> ISOC-AU (http://www.isoc-au.org.au/ )and/or EFA (https://www.efa.org.au/)
> are the appropriate groups for this discussion.
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Geordie Guy <elomis at gmail.com>
> >To: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
> >Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014, 18:05
> >Subject: Re: [AusNOG] George Brandis - Be Warned
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> >
> ><rant>
> >>
> >>
> >>George Brandis - I hope you read this and understand.
> >>
> >>
> >>The following article is an example of what we, the tech industry WILL
> do if you persist on trying to control the Internet, in Australia or
> anywhere else.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >LOL
> >
> >
> >Prove it.
> >
> >
> >The state of the Australian network operator community is such that
> Brandis is quite sure, if he has an IQ above room temperature, that he can
> do literally anything he likes to the community and industry and in
> response he'll get someone who is community and society minded issuing a
> call to arms to the AusNOG list that will be met with between 1 and 3
> people complaining that the email doesn't contain a traceroute pertaining
> to a specific, current routing issue where someone going via a peer is
> getting a packet or two dropped and want to know if other people using the
> same peering have the same problem.
> >
> >
> >Seriously.
> >
> >
> >If you want to issue threats to politicians who are expediting the ISP
> and carrier industry into a collection of Australian businesses whose
> primary business models are issuing copyright infringement notices,
> wholesale aggregating and delivering user metadata and policing what
> websites their customers can access in the lens of current government
> policy about what people should do, you might want to check that the
> industry gives a proverbial.
> >
> >
> >Every attempt at engaging the AusNOG community to care about these issues
> falls on the deaf ears of operators that just want to get through their
> shift and have convinced themselves that other people will sort it out if
> there's a genuine problem.
> >
> >
> >Skeeve if you ever want to work with someone to oppose this sort of stuff
> contact me directly.  There's two of us, we can find more offlist.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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