[AusNOG] Data retention definitions

[Skeeve Stevens]

Is this John Brandis, our Attorney General a complete idiot?

I bet once the terror alert is reduced these laws won't be repealed.



...Skeeve

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On 26 September 2014 01:56, Ben Grubb <bgrubb at fairfaxmedia.com.au> wrote:

> More fun on this front
>
> From The Australian <https://t.co/Om7r7GZ8dE>:
> ONLINE communication sites including social-media services Twitter and
> Facebook will be drawn into a planned updated version of the federal
> government’s anti-terror data-retention push.
> ....
>
> “Data-retention obligations should not be limited to licensed carriers but
> should also extend to any entity that provides communications services to
> the Australian public,” the paper says.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ben Grubb
>
> On 31 August 2014 13:14, Tom Berryman <Tom at connectivityit.com.au> wrote:
>
>>  Seems as though we are getting some clarity on who will have access to
>> our stored metadata:
>>
>>
>> http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/security-it/australia-reaching-for-more-metadata-lets-some-slip-20140828-109jjf.html
>>
>>
>>
>> EVERYONE and ANYONE!
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>>
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>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
>> Stevens
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:34 AM
>> *To:* Bevan Slattery
>> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Data retention definitions
>>
>>
>>
>> Ice Bucket Metadata Challenge?  Nah... people would wimp out :)
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On 30 August 2014 09:12, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>  We as an industry should get our **** together, come up with an
>> advertising campaign that illustrates the problem and in simple
>> writing/video and email the 3,000,000 subscribers/users that we have apart
>> from Telstra and Optus.
>>
>>
>>
>> We should have a "metadata" day in which we undertake significant
>> activities such as all change our our home pages to a metadata landing page
>> to draw attention to this with a video demonstrating the issue at large.
>>
>>
>>
>> Posting to AUSNOG is not going to help and don't expect businesses to get
>> involved because we haven't helped them understand why they should be
>> concerned.
>>
>>
>> [b]
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>>
>> On 30 Aug 2014, at 8:47 am, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:
>>
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>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The group of businesses in this forum will only be tasked to store the
>> data if the proposal gets up.
>>
>> The proposal is less likely to get up if there is a broad campaign
>> against it.
>>
>> You're talking about post apocalyptic practicalities. I'm talking about
>> showing leadership to make sure the war doesn't start in the first place.
>>
>>    - mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps we should be getting the business community behind this effort.
>>
>> I'm sure corporates and small business alike are not geared up to collect
>> and store all this data.
>>
>> From memory, the requirement is that all "entities" be required to store
>> the "metadata".
>>
>> I can see any reason why any "entity" who runs a NAT gateway would be
>> exempt from this.
>>
>>
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