[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

Wed Sep 10 12:46:38 EST 2014

>From that presentation simon says you can order a direct fibre haul to your
house? So for the most population 100mbit is fine? Anyone wanting more thhe
can haul a fibre in?

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au>
wrote:

>  But Darren, this is tax payer money. Tax payers want the best from
> Their money not a half asses "that'll do" attitude
>
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> On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:38 pm, "ANSA SERVERS" <info at ausnetservers.net.au
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>   Adam,
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> Yes 100mb might be fine for now but what about the future, from what I
> understand this copper in the last mile can only handle 100mb, so in the
> future it WILL have to be ripped up and replaced with CAT6 ( or better) of
> direct fibre…… which begs the comment why are they not doing that now
>
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> *From:* Adam O'Reilly [mailto:adam at oreilly.bz
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:37 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with
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> I think 100mbit will be fine.
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> http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/netflix-ceo-says-4k-streaming-will-only-require-15mbps-bandwidth/
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> and assuming that you are streaming a 4GB movie:
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> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4GB+in+90+minutes
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> On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:50 am, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au
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>
>   Umm my argument mainly is by the time they have finished rolling out
> there 100mb nbn it WILL BE obsolete
>
> My understanding of the nbn post liberal government was that the nbn was
> supposed to be a transport network for phone , internet , DTV, foxtel and
> other networks and applications we havent even thought off
>
>
>
> Good luck getting  HDTV to work without buffering with multiple users in a
> household with 100/xx
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>
> Regards,
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> On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:15 pm, "Mark Newton" <newton at atdot.dotat.org
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> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:18 PM, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at ausnetservers.net.au');>> wrote:
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>  FTTN might work for the time being but will have to be replaced with
> more money out of the tax payers pocket. If the government knew anything
> about the state of the copper network their research would of told them
> that the part of the copper network they are keeping is the worst effected
> part of the network.
>
>
>
> This line of argument needs to stop.
>
>
>
> FTTN vs FTTH has been discussed ad nauseaum since about 2005.  Telstra
> first approached the Howard Government about FTTN, the Rudd Government
> started with FTTN then switched to FTTH.  Now the Abbott Government is
> doing both.
>
>
>
> I think it’s safe to assert that *all* of the Governments involved in the
> many different NBNs which have been proposed know exactly what the state of
> the copper is.
>
>
>
> If you believe that the Government would stop proposing networks that use
> the CAN if only they knew about the state of the CAN, *you are wrong.*
> Stop doing that, it’s making you look silly, and no NBN-related argument
> has ever been won with that point.
>
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>   - mark
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