[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

[ANSA SERVERS]

I forgot to add in my last reply, I just had to upgrade my media centre network over to direct gigabit cabling because the 5GHZ wireless that my 4 apple tv devices where using was swamping the capacity of the wireless.

>From memory I think it was set on 150mb.

The discussion of what people need and don't need is not what a government party should be deciding. The should be building a network that gives users options. Eg my grandpar won't use 100mb for a few emails and facebook but  I am inpatient and want things now, not later.

After all it was the Liberal Government that sold Telecom off in 1999/2000 when they should of held onto it and maintained it. Should they have done so we wouldn't be in this mess right now.

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From: Darren Moss [mailto:Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:28 PM
To: ANSA SERVERS; Mark Newton
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

How much bandwidth do you actually need ?

I hope we're not pushing the argument that people will be ordering 1GBps for home use.

I watch HD content on my VDSL service which consumes less than 5MBps.

Do you really need 100MBps for home use. What will you do with it.

Disclaimer: I have teenage children who consume a lot of internet - we work fine with 25MBps on VDSL.

DM.

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of ANSA SERVERS
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:21 PM
To: Mark Newton
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

Umm my argument mainly is by the time they have finished rolling out there 100mb nbn it WILL BE obsolete

My understanding of the nbn post liberal government was that the nbn was supposed to be a transport network for phone , internet , DTV, foxtel and other networks and applications we havent even thought off

Good luck getting  HDTV to work without buffering with multiple users in a household with 100/xx

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On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:15 pm, "Mark Newton" <newton at atdot.dotat.org<mailto:newton at atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:

On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:18 PM, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au<mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au>> wrote:

FTTN might work for the time being but will have to be replaced with more money out of the tax payers pocket. If the government knew anything about the state of the copper network their research would of told them that the part of the copper network they are keeping is the worst effected part of the network.

This line of argument needs to stop.

FTTN vs FTTH has been discussed ad nauseaum since about 2005.  Telstra first approached the Howard Government about FTTN, the Rudd Government started with FTTN then switched to FTTH.  Now the Abbott Government is doing both.

I think it's safe to assert that all of the Governments involved in the many different NBNs which have been proposed know exactly what the state of the copper is.

If you believe that the Government would stop proposing networks that use the CAN if only they knew about the state of the CAN, you are wrong.  Stop doing that, it's making you look silly, and no NBN-related argument has ever been won with that point.

  - mark


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