[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Skeeve Stevens]

I'd love to know what is meant by SMTP.

For new providers I'm building these days my recommendation is to do NO
mail.  Consumers can go to gmail/hotmail/etc...  and businesses run their
own.

If I ran an SMTP relay for customers, I would tell customers not to use
it... so there would be no record.

Business should setup a $10 per month AWS instance in the US or Japan and
relay email through that.

My opinion is that if we don't offer the service, we can't actually log it
or give the information over.

On the other hand.. if they are asking us to intercept traffic to figure
this stuff out... then I'd think there would be a much bigger problem.


...Skeeve

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On 30 October 2014 11:54, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:

> I don't know why you're so upset about this.
> They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.
> It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow
> history.
>
> dave
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <paul at oxygennetworks.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there nothing
>> we can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can just see the $$$$ now…..
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
>> Yager
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM
>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
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>> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea
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>> Andrew
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