[AusNOG] TPG Peering

[Jared Hirst]

Yeah the issue is that there is a multi level of complaints flooding in,
sure we can route around it to say Vocus or someone BUT they would then try
and just push it back through their PIPE peering to TPG.... so I am paying
for it to go via a transit provider to only have it sent back into the PIPE
peering.

I am sure we can make some communities and traffic magic happen, but that's
all pointless when I am paying TPG for their PIPE peering port? So why
should I be penalised by them having a congested port when I am paying to
send them traffic anyway?

Regardless of the costs here, I just need to get the issues resolved, I
have so many complaints and customers are generally un-happy, they simply
blame us for everything.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

>
>  What's even more interesting is that Jared wants to resolve a problem for
>> - who exactly ? Does it end up being that he's a content provider and thus
>> the eyeballs in question (gaming or otherwise) are worth $$ to him ? In
>> which case the discussion heads in a particular direction.  Or are the
>> users in question not actually his users (they're TPG's) and at which point
>> why would you care (business wise - I understand why everyone cares from a
>> good 'net perspective).  Isn't this the marketplace at work ?
>>
>
> The answers to whose customers...everyones, really.
>
>  You have the EU -> ISP arrangement, the EU -> Content Owner arrangement,
> and Content Owner -> Content Hoster [SAU in this case].
>
>
>  The EU would get the blame game from ISP to Content Owner, Content Owner
> would receive the complaint and likely forward to Content Hoster, Content
> Hoster has identified the problem as a TPG ingress point, something he has
> no control over, so has no choice but to blame it back to TPG.
>
>  To his credit, he is actually trying to resolve the issue directly to
> stop the viscous cycle of blame.
>
>  It's a hard spot to be in.
>
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