[AusNOG] They're heeeeeere - Netflix in .au/.nz in March 2015

Wed Nov 19 12:42:39 EST 2014

You could hold your breath until you pass out too.

NBNCo have to provide the same service to all RSPs.

NBNCo  are trying to get the right to charge bigger RSPs less.

Think about that.

Now who is the biggest RSP?

It’s Telstra.

Who is the biggest supplier of services to NBNCo?

It’s Telstra.

NBNCo have already agreed to pay Telstra $13.8 billion dollars for love, hugs, use of space in exchanges, ducts and fibre, compensation for lost revenue, etc.

Telstra don’t have the slightest interest in seeing CVC charges reduced.

They are more than happy to pay the highest amount the ACCC and politics will allow.

Telstra will sit and watch everyone else turn blue and die from holding their breath all the while being paid by NBNCo.

That’s how monopolies work.

John Lindsay
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> On 19 Nov 2014, at 12:05 pm, Chris Gibbs <chris.gibbs at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
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> NBN Co offers 4 classes of service. You want streaming video quality maybe you can negotiate?
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> Not sure if it would work practically but the option is there.
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> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au <mailto:paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>> wrote:
> if they diss' you then simply disconnect them & move to an alternate monopoly provider!
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] They're heeeeeere - Netflix in .au/.nz in March 2015
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> You can’t negotiate with streaming video quality.
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> It’s either top grade or it’s visibly degraded or it stops working.
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> "Price cuts are going to be followed up with further investigation into pricing.” is corporate code for “you’ll pay what we tell you to because we’re the new monopoly”.
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> Yay.
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> John Lindsay
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> On 19 Nov 2014, at 11:53 am, Chris Gibbs <chris.gibbs at serversaustralia.com.au <mailto:chris.gibbs at serversaustralia.com.au>> wrote:
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> This has been floating around for a while now and is only the start. Price cuts are going to be followed up with further investigation into pricing.
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> I think NBN Co have suggested a preferred option with cheaper pricing if the CVC is oversubscribed at better ratio's. Option 4 if memory serves. And the RSP would be in (semi-)control of pricing  based on the oversubscribed AVC:CVC bandwidth. Sliding-scale to determine pricing. On of the points to be discussed was deciding how to calculate, i.e. NNI aggregate, POI aggregate or NBN aggregate of CVC to AVCs
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> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
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> Btw... NBNCo announced on Monday that the CVC is going from $20/mb to $17.50 in Feb 15... #whoopdef!ckendoo.
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> On 19 November 2014 11:51, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
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> It's not Backhaul it's AGVC that's going to be the problem. Backhaul is easily fixed with peers / On prem etc. But the high cost of AGVC through the last mile or unavailability of  NBN'co. that's going to cause a headache
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> On 19/11/2014 11:39 am, Mark Newton wrote:
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> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com <mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
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> I am keen to see what players will offer providers with peering.
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> I’m keen to see what ISPs are going to do about backhaul.
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