[AusNOG] Re RackCentral

[Skeeve Stevens]

Peter,

I partially agree with your statement.

1. Yes.... but there is nothing stopping us (or the media) talking about it
2. Same answer
3. This is not good.  Anyone who wants to take the risks of dealing with
shonky operators is on them.  There shouldn't be a lynch mob to go after
people.  BUT, there should be some mechanism like the Renters thing I
posted, where if people are doing bad business, they should be able to be
listed, and then it is on you to do your due diligence and check... but
that kind of forum is hard.

Ausnog does have a bit of whinging... higher than normal... and yes, some
of the more extreme stuff should stop... but this is a community and there
are other factors - products, politics, business, innovation - that can
effect our operations and should be able to be discussed.

Let the moderators deal with the extreme issues, but if you are going to
threaten to unsubscribe - just do it.  We should deal with the 'related'
things that come up and if you can't then Ausnog isn't the place for you...
it is been this way since it started and goes through waves... it is just
life.


...Skeeve

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On 18 November 2014 11:21, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com> wrote:

> This conversation in a public forum is all kinds of wrong for a variety of
> reasons.
>
> 1. Liquidation is a legal process and commenting on that could create
> additional risks to all involved (hence why lawyers and solictors are used
> for communication.
> 2. Innocent until proven guilty. It's not our job to convict in this
> kangaroo court anyone in this situation. Leave to the liquidators and ASIC
> to resolve the matter. This one principal is the bases for everything we
> hold true in Australia. respect it. Period.
> 3. Targeting other suppliers are  akin to a linch mob and shows complete
> lack of professionalism on all counts. People are allowed to sell services
> to anyone. If they get bitten, then that's there problem. Not anyone elses
> to tell them out to run their business.
>
> Ausnog is turning into a forum of whinging complaining egotistical
> unprofessional, amateurs that seem more interesting in causing an argument
> than actually contributing in the list and adhearing to the charter.
>
> I think if I see another argument that's not technical related to running
> public or private networks then I will un-subscribe. Stop acting like
> children.
>
> Peter Tiggerdine
>
>
>
>
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