[AusNOG] Netflix coming to Australia

Mon May 26 14:06:06 EST 2014

Suspect it was either a joke article or someone got wind of something that
turned out to be false, possibly an article being written for if it ever
did happen which can be edited and published quickly to get the scoop.

As I mentioned in my previous comment on this thread, Netflix have made
deliberate and clear representations that they are not planning an
Australian service on the near horizon.  The majority of Australians who
want Netflix content are either torrenting it or have Netflix accounts from
the US service. While The Australian's Chris Griffith has a grip on
technology and media content similar to a guy trying to grab a personal
lube-coated soap using buttered latex mittens, he did credibly project in
March that there are between 50,000 and 200,000 Australian Netflix
subscribers.  Put that figure up against the fact that Netflix content like
Game of Thrones is the most pirated thing in the world, and Australians are
some of the biggest pirates out, and you've got an entire Australian
Netflix market that are either never going to pay for Netflix or already
are.  There's next to nobody out there that won't torrent what they want
AND won't subscribe to Netflix until they launch an inferior Australian
service.

While I'd encourage providers to build strong networks for the delivery of
high quality media content anyway, customers are already placing demand on
the existing network capacities here.  The idea that Netflix are going to
bother capturing the eight person Australian market that wants their
content and doesn't already have it (at the cost of the lawyers being let
off their chains and barreling across the yard to latch onto their
forearms) seems invisibly thin.

G

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:

> Also, It might make them look like fools for black banning the NBN FTTP
> design....
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Serge Malev <smalev at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Similar article still there on The Australian website.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Netflix heads to Australia as Seven plots rival service
>>
>>     Darren Davidson
>>     The Australian
>>     May 19, 2014 12:00AM
>>
>>
>> SEVEN Network is considering approaches from telco Optus, digital TV
>> platform Freeview, and movie subscription service Quickflix about joining
>> forces for an online streaming service to rival US streaming giant Netflix.
>>
>> It was not previously known that Optus, Freeview and Quickflix were
>> planning a foray into subscription video on-demand services.
>>
>> The service will compete with Netflix, which The Australian can reveal is
>> considering an official launch in Australia next year.
>>
>> “There’s quite a list of players circling in the space,” a local
>> television executive told The Australian.
>>
>> Netflix has publicly downplayed its local aspirations after local network
>> bosses complained to US studios that the maker of Kevin Spacey hit House of
>> Cards was diminishing the value of output deals, the agreements under which
>> the Seven, Nine and Ten networks pay studios fees for television programs.
>>
>> Local executives have been concerned that Netflix has attracted an
>> estimated 50,000 to 200,000 local subscribers by flouting international
>> regulations and accepting payments from Australian credit card holders,
>> despite a “geo-block” that could be easily bypassed by internet users.
>>
>> But Netflix is said to be in talks about output deals for Australian
>> content that can be streamed locally and in other markets.
>>
>> This comes despite official claims from Netflix that it is focused on
>> expanding its footprint in Europe, where it has recently struck a deal with
>> British cable provider Virgin Media to incorporate Netflix into
>> subscription packages.
>>
>> Seven is also entertaining overtures from pay-TV operator Foxtel’s
>> Presto, which was launched in March as a beachhead against Netflix before
>> it arrives in Australia.
>>
>> Presto has also approached Nine and Ten networks.
>>
>> As revealed by The Australian in December, Nine is working towards
>> launching its own streaming service, codenamed Stream Co, by the end of
>> this year.
>>
>> A string of explosive emails produced under subpoena in a bitter court
>> battle last week over veteran programmer John Stephens revealed that Seven
>> considered offering Stephens a job on Nine’s Stream Co to keep him from
>> working at Ten.
>>
>> The court heard the plan was hatched by Seven chief operating officer
>> Nick Chan.
>>
>> “Nine have as much of a vested interest in him not going as we do,” Mr
>> Chan wrote.
>>
>> “He won’t be the first to walk away from a contract.”
>>
>> But it’s understood Seven has not entered into an agreement with Nine and
>> is keeping its options open.
>>
>> Seven has held discussions with Nine, but has developed reservations
>> about a tie-up with its biggest rival since the email was sent in March.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:28:37 +1000
>> From: ben at zeno.io
>> To: the.damo at gmail.com
>> CC: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Netflix coming to Australia
>>
>> The link that skeeve used has been taken down. Interestingly Enough.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Skeeve Stevens <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure why they don't consider Netflix as a competitor... I guess
>> it is all a matter of perspective.
>>
>>
>> FetchTV is a replacement of the 'cable company' business model - they
>> compete with Foxtel to deliver you TV channels etc
>> Netflix is a replacement of the 'video rental' business model - they
>> compete with VideoEzy/Blockbuster etc to deliver you a large library of
>> content to watch on demand.
>>
>> Additionally FetchTV is normally delivered as a box that plugs into your
>> TV, Netflix is normally delivered as a app/service that you install on
>> something. Fetch is saying they want their box to be one of thoes
>> somethings. In the US netflix has started to partner with cable companies
>> to install Netflix on your traditional cable box.
>>
>> --Damian
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