[AusNOG] ispONE Disconnected by Wholesalers - Are you affected? `

[Joshua D'Alton]

Hey Bevan, I admire your vision of Megaport being the defacto 'fabric'
solution here in AU (maybe globally one day?? good start with SG, just
caught up on your blog), but I think Matt brings some pause and thought to
those that while may be reeling from the OP disconnection issue may not
consider their 2nd backup plan beyond using MP to get them out of their
current situations.

Especially if (quite understandably) they assume/rely on the reliability of
MP (as they may have of AWS Azure Compute etc, and be honest, its easy to
get complacent when you do experience 100% uptime..), which hasn't been
without its hiccups (PIPE DC issue at the start of the year), and as of yet
not a proven track record (although hard to argue with your amazing
progress in such a short time!), none of which means MP might not in fact
be THE provider to use exclusively if one is to take that risk.

PS how many diverse paths do you have between DCs, the site has no mention
of specific SLA, I'd assume 5nines but that would mean 3 if not 4 (some
direct, some via other DCs)?


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>wrote:

> Sorry if I hit a nerve there Matt. Can you clarify where anyone on this
> thread suggested you should use Megaport or AWS for that matter exclusively?
>
> Is it your position that using AWS, Megaport, Azure, Google Compute is
> engineering "bad practice"?
>
> I'll skip on responding to the attacks which most will recognise as not
> constructive.
>
> [b]
>
> PS: some of those 200 customers are the largest internet companies in the
> world.  Just saying...
>
> > On 3 May 2014, at 4:35 pm, Matt Palmer <mpalmer at hezmatt.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 04:03:34PM +1000, Bevan Slattery wrote:
> >> Haha.  People who say these things today about Megaport remind me of the
> >> server hardware sales people talking about AWS in 2010.
> >
> > Talk about statements that aren't relevant to the discussion.  But to
> bring
> > it back to my point, the list of AWS outages isn't short, and the harm
> those
> > have done to AWS customers is real, and there are plenty of "cloud"
> > businesses that have gone belly-up.
> >
> > In each case, customers who didn't plan for the contingency of the
> failure
> > were left in a very, very bad position -- a situation not dissimilar to
> the
> > topic of conversation.
> >
> >> We have almost 200 ports being lit by customers that value that an
> >> on-demand, customer controlled, elastic connectivity platform allowing
> >> partners to integrate each others platforms via an API.
> >
> > How many ports were lit by customers of ispONE?
> >
> >> This was merely an example of how Megaports elastic connectivity
> platform
> >> could assist - greatly.  If it's not for you then no probs.  But to jump
> >> in with a couple of blanket statements that weren't even relevant to the
> >> discussion demonstrates you probably just don't get it.
> >
> > Sounds like you're a little touchy about the fact that businesses can
> fail,
> > and that it isn't wise to rely on a single provider of any service.  An
> > interesting data point.
> >
> > I'm actually rather keen on the concept of Megaport, but I'm not going to
> > sit around quietly while people make statements which contradict sound
> > engineering practice.  Sorry if that upsets your grand vision of using
> > AusNOG as your criticism-free advertising platform.
> >
> > - Matt
> >
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