[AusNOG] DS-Lite is IPv6-only from outside...

[Shannon Gernyi]

I had that exact thought after I had finished blabbering on too!

Cheers,

Shannon

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bradley Falzon" <brad at teambrad.net>
> To: "Shannon Gernyi" <shannon.gernyi at xsv.com.au>
> Cc: "Nathan Brookfield" <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>, ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 June, 2014 9:58:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] DS-Lite is IPv6-only from outside...
> 
> I think they might be referring to IPv6 to IPv6 gamers connect
> directly without the use of Teredo relays, whereas IPv4 peers need the
> relays, adding latency.
> 
> On 18 June 2014 21:09, Shannon Gernyi <shannon.gernyi at xsv.com.au> wrote:
> > Oh, of course, the previous "grasping at straws" comment was assuming
> > Native IPv6...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Shannon Gernyi" <shannon.gernyi at xsv.com.au>
> >> To: "Nathan Brookfield" <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
> >> Cc: "Karl Auer" <kauer at biplane.com.au>, ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 June, 2014 9:38:47 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] DS-Lite is IPv6-only from outside...
> >>
> >> If one really wanted to try and justify this, I guess you could go for a
> >> reduction in processing overhead in IPv6, compared to IPv4, but, since
> >> we're
> >> splitting hairs here, you also gain an extra 20 bytes in L3 header. That
> >> being said, in a gaming application, it's not like you're maxing frame
> >> size
> >> anyway...
> >>
> >> Err...yeah - I tried. You're not perceiving the reduction in processing
> >> overhead, in the real world... I'm just going to stick with Nathan on this
> >> one... BS
> >>
> >> The only advantage I'm seeing with 128bit addresses is the lack of
> >> outbound
> >> NAT - direct-connection games just got easier!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Shannon
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Nathan Brookfield" <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
> >> > To: "Karl Auer" <kauer at biplane.com.au>
> >> > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, 18 June, 2014 9:23:15 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] DS-Lite is IPv6-only from outside...
> >> >
> >> > I have to disagree, I don't see in any way possible how the latency
> >> > could
> >> > be
> >> > lower along with the other points.
> >> >
> >> > If anything it may be longer due to less available paths and having to
> >> > use
> >> > tunnels in some cases.
> >> >
> >> > I call BS 100%!
> >> >
> >> > Kindest Regards,
> >> > Nathan Brookfield
> >> >
> >> > Chief Executive Officer
> >> > Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
> >> >
> >> > Web: http://simtronic.com.au
> >> > Phone: 1300 592 330
> >> > Fax: (02) 4749 4950
> >> >
> >> > On 18 Jun 2014, at 21:18, "Karl Auer" < kauer at biplane.com.au > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 21:05 +1000, Paul Brooks wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 18/06/2014 8:02 PM, Mark ZZZ Smith wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://www.extremetech.com/computing/168394-xbox-one-will-be-best-experienced-with-ipv6-how-do-you-get-ipv6-at-home-though
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "By using IPv6 on your Xbox One, you should have less latency when
> >> > playing
> >> > multiplayer
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > games, any data that you do transmit over the internet should be safer
> >> > and
> >> > more
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > private, and in general any connections made by the Xbox One — either to
> >> > remote
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > servers, or peer-to-peer — should be faster and more responsive."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > False, False and False, and false
> >> >
> >> > I don't see how you can say it's definitively false any more than they
> >> > can say it's definitively true, because as with everything else, "it
> >> > depends". Except the bit about "safer and more private", because that's
> >> > certainly not true out of the box. It's not LESS safe or LESS private,
> >> > but nor is it more so.
> >> >
> >> > Regards, K.
> >> >
> >> > --
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