[AusNOG] So are iiNet condoning illegal piracy?

[Greg Anderson]

So really what should be happening here, is network operators should be
identifying the illegal use of networking processes.  Then, by identifying
the users address, they can contact the power companies who are providing
the power to a user who is using that power for illegal download activities
and illegally share the users address with them.  The power companies then
should send someone out to site to cut this illegal use of electricity,
upon which they confer with the network operator to ensure the illegal
downloads have stopped, job done.

Or better yet, the power companies can monitor their power network and
identify the minuscule voltage changes resulting from packet transmission,
read the packet for illegal activity, and then shut down the power
themselves upon breach.

Problem solvered.


On 11 June 2014 12:17, Tom Berryman <tom at connectivityit.com.au> wrote:

>  Do power companies get prosecuted when people use their power for
> illegal drug producing operations? Or more specifically power retailers.
> Nope.
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> Personally I would say illegal drug production and distribution is more
> dangerous to society than Hollywood piracy.
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
> Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 June 2014 12:11 PM
> *To:* mike at brassrazoo.net.au
> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] So are iiNet condoning illegal piracy?
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> Mike,
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> That is a big of an arrogant and near-sighted perspective on the issue.
>  We're not talking about what is and isn't legal.  We're talking about ISPs
> becoming the police and being responsible for what people do on their
> networks.
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> We do not blame drunk drivers on the RTA/RMS/Vic Roads/etc? Nor do we
> blame the local government for a mugging or other violent crime that
> happens on the streets.
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> Police, law enforcement and prosecution of offences already have their
> processes. ISPs should not be monitoring what users do, or acting on
> anything from anywhere other than legal avenues.
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> ...Skeeve
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mike Ryan - Brass Razoo Group <
> brassrazoo1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  By opposing legislation that outlaws criminal activity (intellectual
> property theft) are iiNet giving a tacit nod to illegal activities? ISP's
> and carriers are not liable for the behaviour of their clients. iiNet
> should stick to providing shareholder value and ensuring system
> availability.
>
> It's called "Rule of Law".
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