[AusNOG] Netflix in AU, break up Go4, or TPG peering breakup?

[Jake Anderson]

People also seem to see the government "swooping in" to promote or 
punish some particular thing that is close to their heart.

People (and the government sadly) need to understand its the job of the 
government to get the best outcomes for its people, IE the government 
should work to improve the long term "happiness" of its population.
Note that there are specific measures of happiness and free beer doesn't 
actually contribute much to that, it is also explicitly "long term" so 
bankrupting all the ISP's is also not going to work.

As "the internet" is now such a vital part of everyone’s daily lives the 
government is going to start getting more involved, much as its involved 
in the delivery of roads, water, power its just a thing that will happen.
On the plus side the history of ISP's is much more like that of air 
travel (with the benefit of using the legacy telco for last mile 
infrastructure) so I see the evolution of regulation travelling along 
those paths.

So in short, if your business practise is harming the utility of "the 
internet" to millions of people the government *must* step in, otherwise 
its failing as a government.

IE if it would be better for 10's of millions of people for the 
government to mandate peering at the expense of the profits of a few, 
then that is an action they must take, they should also compensate those 
few in some form.



On 21/07/14 22:09, Joseph Goldman wrote:
> I personally (as the person who brought up government mandates) was 
> actually suggesting that ISP's (those that deliver internet access to 
> end users, specifically, vs say content hosters like Netflix) be 
> forced to join IX's, in an attempt to break up Go4 and make most 
> domestic transit affordable for everyone. Being an isolated continent 
> (by sea) and sparse population, the benefits we can get from as much 
> traffic as possible passing through cheaper peering links is a big 
> plus especially for the small/medium guys.
>
> There are more in-depth issues that would need to be considered, but 
> on the outset it would feel like a dream come true to some.
>
>
> On 21/07/14 22:03, Jake Anderson wrote:
>> Just a quickie,
>> I don't think anybody was suggesting that netflix be given free 
>> anything.
>> I think people were, if anything suggesting the opposite.
>> That if netflix were to come here that the govt somehow forces them 
>> to peer at an IX or something rather than netflix going into a 
>> telstra colo and forcing everybody else to buy telstra transit for it.
>>
>> The specific mechanics of how one goes about that without being 
>> overly perscriptive and creating a "gang of 5" down the road are 
>> interesting and perhaps worthy of discussion.
>>