[AusNOG] IP transit via Megaport in Sydney and Melbourne

[Skeeve Stevens]

Number 1 is open to interpretation - since anyone who joined up to Megaport
can essentially offer services over Megaport - which essentially means
everyone is a partner :)


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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
wrote:

> Ok – just a couple of points for clarification:
>
> 1.  A partner is either a wholesale provider or someone who has joined our
> partner program and offers services over Megaport
> 2.  The $200/port is subject to terms but at a high level does not include
> the VXC fee and delivered to our demarc at the "b" end (VXC includes
> campus, metro and inter cap).
>
> Best to drop a note to belinda.flanders at megaport.com if you (or anyone)
> needs further details – and take this off-list.
>
> Cheers
>
> [b]
>
> From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
> Date: Monday, 14 July 2014 10:09 AM
> To: Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
> Cc: John Wooler <john.wooler at exigent.com.au>, "ausnog at ausnog.net" <
> ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IP transit via Megaport in Sydney and Melbourne
>
> Ok, so I guess to clarify... what is a Channel/Partner vs someone who is
> connected?
>
> Just to clarify the terminology :)
>
> So Bevan... am I able to use MegaDirect in this way for our customer?
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Skeeve and John,
>>
>> MegaDirect service is only available to Channel/Partners with a Megaport.
>>  So for example if a partner has a Megaport at SY1 and want to interconnect
>> with any party at say NEXTDC S1 on a 1Gbps circuit then they can order a
>> MegaDirect service to that DC.
>>
>> The service is only able to be ordered by Partners and must terminate on
>> a Megaport port at one end.  The other end goes wherever and to whoever
>> they chose.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> [b]
>>
>> From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
>> Date: Monday, 14 July 2014 9:42 AM
>> To: John Wooler <john.wooler at exigent.com.au>
>> Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IP transit via Megaport in Sydney and Melbourne
>>
>> I am not sure about that... as far as I know, anyone on Megaport can
>> order a MegaDirect back to them.  But, I could be wrong (Sorry if I am)....
>> Megaport?
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:33 AM, John Wooler <john.wooler at exigent.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Im pretty certain that the MegaDirect is only available to wholesale
>>> customers or channel partners.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The average Joe connected the MegaPort wouldn’t be able to order this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> * John Wooler,*
>>> Founder & CEO
>>> Exigent Enterprise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
>>> Stevens
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 14 July 2014 9:10 AM
>>> *To:* Andrew Tschudi
>>> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] IP transit via Megaport in Sydney and Melbourne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, this isn't strictly true.  You can get Vocus services over
>>> Megaport using the new MegaDirect product.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MegaDirect is a wholesale only service that lets you connect to people
>>> who don't have Megaport.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Using Vocus as an example... Megaport is in the Vocus DC, or a place
>>> where Vocus provides handoff.  You order a MegaDirect service (in 1Gb or
>>> 10Gb) to go from the Vocus handoff switch port, directly physically cabled
>>> to the Megaport switch, which you can then VxC back to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am about to use this to get to one of the suppliers for a new ISP I am
>>> building which are slow to get onto Megaport.  The costs for the 1Gb ports
>>> are only $200 (12mths) or $250 (6mths) instead of the $500 for the 10Gb
>>> ports.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This can be essentially used to connect anyone to your network by using
>>> Megaport.  You will most likely see some tail providers, like FirstPath and
>>> others who will offer tails from an office building, straight into Megaport
>>> using MegaDirect.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, if someone isn't on Megaport, or just not yet... It doesn't really
>>> matter anymore as long as Megaport is in the DC itself...
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Andrew Tschudi <
>>> andrewtschudi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Vocus don’t supply services directly over Megaport so they are out of
>>> the equation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am after IP transit providers on Megaport who can provide me a direct
>>> connection with full routes without the cost of a physical cross
>>> connections or burning a router port and without having someone manage a
>>> tail like suggested.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For your knowledge I did ask about DDOS as I have had no end of pain
>>> liaising with upstream providers previous so I am very interested in DDOS
>>> mitigation and attacks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Vocus solution which you made reference to is not DDOS mitigation it
>>> is DDOS black holing which completes the attack which can be useful but is
>>> not DDOS mitigation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Cheyne Jonstone <
>>> cjonstone at staff.ventraip.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have to agree with Jared on this. Besides, Andrew didn't even ask
>>> about DDoS protection, so why is it even being discussed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Irrespective, Andrew you should speak to the guys at Vocus as they can
>>> no doubt sell you transit at a much lower on cost and they too have DDoS
>>> mitigation included in their transit product (if that's something you
>>> need). More info at http://www.vocus.com.au/ddos/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anybody can give you a Megaport lead-in for Vocus in just about every
>>> non-PIPE data centre, happy to do it for you ourselves in M1.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheyne Jonstone | VentraIP Australia
>>> *Executive Chairman*
>>>
>>> phone. +61 3 9013 8461
>>> usa. +1 (702) 949 2390
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Jared Hirst <
>>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's 32 Gbits? That's nothing to be super excited about? Sounds like a
>>> mass marketing ploy on Ausnog again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Literally myself and many other's get hit with that daily :) Maybe we
>>> should all start comparing our '...attacks'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joel from Zone networks would be in the same boat as us and being
>>> smashed with attacks much larger than this launched by script kiddies upset
>>> about being booted from their game servers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:50 PM, John Wooler <john.wooler at exigent.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No worries at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a load of information about  the attack on both of our
>>> websites.  Went into as much detail as we both could since we know there is
>>> quite a bit of interest in these types of things in the network industry.
>>>
>>> http://blog.exigent.com.au
>>>
>>> http://www.micron21.com/34gbit-ddos.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They can even deliver the DDoS protection to any of your other PoP’s
>>> around Australia over Megaport.  This is how we have our DDoS protection
>>> delivered to our Sydney, Melbourne & Brisbane locations and very soon our
>>> Perth location as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> * John Wooler,*
>>> Founder & CEO
>>> Exigent Enterprise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Andrew Tschudi [mailto:andrewtschudi at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 July 2014 9:43 PM
>>> *To:* John Wooler
>>> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] IP transit via Megaport in Sydney and Melbourne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John thank you for your suggestion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have talked with Micron21 previously and they were very knowledgeable
>>> I’ll reach out to them for our Melbourne requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What type of DDOS attack was it do you have any more information?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:18 PM, John Wooler <john.wooler at exigent.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For IP transit in Melbourne, definitely contact the guys at Micron21…
>>> James responded on here today about his DDoS protection that he’s able to
>>> provide both domestically & internationally and they’re also on Megaport as
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just this week they successfully soaked & scrubbed a 34.11Gbit attack on
>>> our network which really has made having their DDOS protection well worth
>>> having!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The guys are always happy to sit down and take the time to have a chat
>>> with you and see what you need and setup what you’re looking for.  The guys
>>> are definitely switched on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.micron21.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> * John Wooler,*
>>> Founder & CEO
>>> Exigent Enterprise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
>>> Tschudi
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 13 July 2014 9:01 PM
>>> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] IP transit via Megaport in Sydney and Melbourne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am after a backup IP transit provider in Sydney and in Melbourne for
>>> IP transit delivered over Megaport VCX.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would want my Melbourne provider to be diverse from my Sydney provider
>>> to create some form of redundancy between Melbourne and Sydney, I’ll also
>>> require a full routing table.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My question is who is using IP transit over Megaport and who can you
>>> recommend, or not recommend ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bonus ports for recommending a provider who can provide 95% percentile
>>> billing, because this is a backup service I would be looking to commit to
>>> as little as possible with a large as possible burst.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy to also provide IP transit from Optus as part of an exchange if
>>> required,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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