[AusNOG] Commsday: Slingshot to open access to Netflix in New Zealand

Mon Jul 7 12:03:14 EST 2014

The effort for Netflix to launch in Australia is insignificant.

This is how they peer: https://www.netflix.com/openconnect

Which would mean, that for ISPs who set it up, would be delivering content
locally to its users.

The front-end of Netflix is what needs to support it I would think.

I need one at home :)

...Skeeve

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On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:

> This is a topic we have discussed at work quite a bit lately and we have
> come to the agreement that is isn’t “copyright infringement” per say, but
> it is definitely breaking the terms and conditions of Netflix etc, and
> likely could be construed as fraud as well depending on how you have signed
> up (faking an address for example, real or otherwise)
>
>
>
> With that said, you raise a good question, if you are a legitimate user
> from the US using a VPN to access it, it’s probably not the same, I’d say
> they base it on the residential status of the account holder, not the
> current location of them.
>
>
>
> Either way, I’d say you would be MUCH better off in front of a judge for
> this rather than downloading it from TPB or other illegal torrent sites….
>
>
>
> As for original content, I’d say there is nothing in the way for Netflix
> to do that today here, other than the lack of the entire backend
> infrastructure which would be fairly pricey just to host a few shows….
>
>
>
> Side note – you forgot to mention Arrested Development, one of the best
> things Netflix has taken lately J
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Ayden Beeson*
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
> Stevens
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 July 2014 11:03 AM
> *To:* Serge Burjak
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Commsday: Slingshot to open access to Netflix in
> New Zealand
>
>
>
> I'd like to understand why you think it is copyright infringement... you
> might be right, but my feeling (not valid for legal purposes) is that it
> wouldn't be.
>
>
>
> You are subscribing to a service, who are paying for the content... and
> you are paying them.
>
>
>
> If I was a US resident travelling in AU/NZ and used a VPN to watch my
> Netflix subscription... is that illegal?  Is it the location you are
> watching, or the location of the subscriber?
>
>
>
> Also, what about Netflix original content - House of Cards, Orange is the
> new Black? Surely they are allowed to let us watch that?  Or is that
> allowed, and now we're actually talking about which specific content we
> watch?  In which case, isn't that pushed back onto Netflix?
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
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>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Serge Burjak <sburjak at systech.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> Strictly speaking, it's still copyright infringement. The fact you pay
> for it doesn't make it better. It's like getting an MS licence and
> saying you are student, but using it in a business. It's against the
> T&Cs.
>
> It would make a LOT of sense for Netflix to open in Australia next.
> The pent up demand would be huge, if they could get a decent range of
> programming, another problem. I think we are more literate in area
> than parts of Europe, their next destination.
>
> On 7 July 2014 10:36, Steve Kurzeja <steve.kurzeja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That announcement is a bit short on the detail. Its been operating for a
> > year now, launched as a free opt-in option for Slingshot customers. Now
> its
> > on by default.
> >
> > For more detail this artcile covers most of it:
> >
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/60133677/slingshot-opens-global-mode-for-all-users
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Cameron Daniel <cdaniel at nurve.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Maxnet tried this last year, it lasted all of about a week if I remember
> >> correctly
> >>
> >> It'd be nice to see attempt #2 last longer but I'm not particularly
> >> optimistic
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2014-07-07 8:51 am, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, this is innovative... something I LOVE to see from ISPs.
> >>>
> >>> So, who is going to do this in Australia? If there is no legal
> >>> hurdles, then I can imagine the ISP or transit provider that does this
> >>> would get a lot of interest.
> >>>
> >>> If they won't come to us, then we go to them!
> >>>
> >>> Maybe Vocus could consider it? :)
> >>>
> >>> ...Skeeve
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>> SLINGSHOT TO OPEN ACCESS TO NETFLIX IN NEW ZEALAND
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> New Zealand ISP Slingshot has turned on its “Global Mode” service
> >>> that alows local customers to access previously blocked sites
> >>> including Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer.
> >>>
> >>> The broadband provider, a subsidiary of CalPlus, is making the service
> >>> available to all customers for free, allowing them to get around
> >>> geographic restrictions.
> >>>
> >>> Slingshot GM Taryn Hamilton told CommsDay the company wasn't expecting
> >>> any legal challenges to the workaround, noting that it was not
> >>> breaking any NZ legislation. He also noted that Australian customers
> >>> had similar chalenges to those in New Zealand.
> >>>
> >>> “We’d be extremely disappointed to se any challenge as this is
> >>> about he NZ consumer, not Slingshot,” Hamilton said. “The
> >>> alternative for many at he moment is to pirate content, which is not
> >>> helping anyone. The model needs to change and hopefully this wil help
> >>> facilitate that.”
> >>>
> >>> Hamilton said the ISP believes the time has come for New Zealanders to
> >>> have the same choice of content hat hose in America and Europe have.
> >>>
> >>> “We know Kiwis want o watch movies and TV series online but are
> >>> blocked from using the world’s best and most popular streaming
> >>> services. We are now giving Kiwis aces to these sites – and an
> >>> option to pay for the content hey want o watch at a fair price.”
> >>>
> >>> Hamilton said the issue extends beyond TV and movies, noting that New
> >>> Zealanders pay significantly more for many technology services and
> >>> products.
> >>>
> >>> The move also comes ahead of launches by Telecom New Zealand and Sky
> >>> TV, both of which are preparing subscription video services for
> >>> consumers.
> >>>
> >>> Geoff Long
> >>> ================
> >>>
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> >>>
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