[AusNOG] Telstra Cable - Multiple-Access

[Skeeve Stevens]

Nice to know Damo.


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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net>wrote:

> If you have all your account numbers handy, and call *business* billing,
> they'll happily fix up all your accounts so you get the appropriate
> bundling discounts..  I have all our family mobiles, office phone and TID
> ADSL on a business bill in the old system, and two (residential plan)
> mobile broadband hockey pucks on another business bill (in the new system).
>  And after phoning business billing and having a whinge about them leaving
> the hockey pucks on the bill in the new system when they migrated our phone
> and mobiles into the old system to bundle with the ADSL, I now get the full
> $20/month off each mobile broadband dongle, for also having landline and
> mobile phone(s) with T$.
>
> Funny thing was, I asked twice for that to happen while they were all on
> separate bills..  Then I went 'bugger it, move it ALL to one bill', which
> of course failed because mobile broadband can't be in the old billing
> system.. but TID ADSL can't be in the new billing system.  Phoned back to
> grumble about the mobile broadband now costing me much more, since it
> wasn't bundled with the office (home) phone and mobiles, and the fellow
> goes 'oh, not a problem, I'll just put you through to a supervisor, and
> they can manually add the discounts, I can see you have all those other
> services on the other account'.
>
> So it is Possible, you just have to grumble and grumble and grumble!   And
> make sure they look at all your bills to see you do have the services they
> require you to have to get the discounts..  If they say they can't see into
> the residential system, just ask for a supervisor - they CAN see the
> residential system :)
>
> --DG
>
> On 22 Jan 2014, at 3:50 pm, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:
>
> I think you will find that part is ok, but if you try to get the discount
> for having a Mobile phone or PSTN line bundled with the cable service it
> will only bundle residential offerings.
> You cannot for example bundle with business ISDN.  Different billing
> systems.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's been a couple of years, but there has to be a process.  When we were
>> in Castle Hill in a business complex, the entire complex has Telstra
>> Cable... no residential at all...
>>
>> I think I just rang up an said we were a business, and they take the
>> details down.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ;  <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>
>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
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>>
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>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au>wrote:
>>
>>> In a friends experience a few years ago, he applied for bigpond cable,
>>> had that hooked up, and then applied for telstra cable at the usual
>>> $330/month cost. It ended up taking them a month or something to fix a
>>> problem when they transitiioned across, but then he had unlimited 30mbit
>>> cable. I believe he had a few months at ~10TB downloaded per month before
>>> they told him to go away, but it didn't end up costing him a thing due to
>>> the SLA once he was on telstra and they were failing to provide service.
>>>
>>> I heard recently you are no longer able to do that trick, but... not
>>> sure.
>>>
>>> Skeeve, how do you go about ordering business cable? I don't see
>>> anywhere on the site to do that?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Cox <andrew.cox at bigair.net.au>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the subject of Telstra cable, is there any way for a business to
>>>> apply for multiple Telstra cable services without being required to put
>>>> them all under an individuals name / drivers license etc?
>>>>
>>>> Seeing as you are getting something connected perhaps you've run across
>>>> this Skeeve? We haven't had much luck trying to find a way to get cable
>>>> services for business.
>>>>
>>>> -Andrew
>>>> On 22/01/2014 11:06 am, "Skeeve Stevens" <
>>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting information mate!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>>>>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>>>>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ;  <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>
>>>>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>>> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Michael Bowe <michael at bowe.id.au>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On HFC, the ISP can't tell the exact physical location of any
>>>>>> particular modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 premise with 4 modems looks and performs exactly the same as 4
>>>>>> premises with 1 modem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your neighbour brings his modem to your house, it will work fine
>>>>>> and the ISP will be none the wiser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only technical limitation of dumping heaps of modems into one
>>>>>> premise is you lose signal every time you add another split. Once the
>>>>>> signal goes below the required threshold the modems will stop working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HFC ISPs will often have commercial rules preventing customers from
>>>>>> installing multiple modems :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1)      because they don't want any given customer to dominate the
>>>>>> node's bandwidth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2)      more importantly they want to encourage/force such
>>>>>> high-volume customers onto a more profitable fibre service instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *Skeeve Stevens
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 January 2014 7:47 AM
>>>>>> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Telstra Cable - Multiple-Access
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if it is possible to get Telstra Cable connected
>>>>>> multiple times in a single premises?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many places have multiple cable connectors and you can get multiple
>>>>>> Foxtel services, but I am wondering if you can do the same with the actual
>>>>>> Bigpond Cable part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if it is possible, would both (or more) connections be at 100mb
>>>>>> (if you ordered it).  I realise there is a shared medium for the segment
>>>>>> you are on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>>>>>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>>>>>>  facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>>>> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
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