[AusNOG] iiNet hosting out

Thu Dec 18 20:05:30 EST 2014

Matthew

I think you under estimate other businesses,

I know for a fact around 12 – 15 web hosting company’s in Australia that ive used and over 30 in the US all use dedicated hardware and do not virtualize things,

The only reason the budget businesses out there use these virtualizations is for cheaper licenses, but as your well aware things like ESXI cause things to run slower then bare bone..

Besides this fact, my argument before still stands,  Nobody can be No. 1

D.

From: ANSA SERVERS [mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au] 
Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2014 8:03 PM
To: Daniel; 'Jared Hirst'; 'Chris Legg'
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] iiNet hosting out

Daniel,

This goes well beyond the hardware specifications of a server or its software

Eg: For starters if you were to do an audit of all the web hosting companies:

-           most would be using a virtual environment such as VMWARE

-          most not in a cluster 

-          no management or monitoring

The point I am making is whilst we all think VMWARE is the bees nees we will have issues like this.

This issue should have been monitored and resolved or mitigated before it became an issue had they been watching over there servers.

That’s why ISP’s should be ISPs and Web Hosters and Data Service providers should be data service providers. 

Eg, you don’t see Next DC offering web hosting ( Sorry Jarred I would have used SAU but you are a managed service provider so couldn’t use you haha )

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Daniel
Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2014 6:57 PM
To: 'Jared Hirst'; 'Chris Legg'
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iiNet hosting out

Plenty of company’s and business’s out there call themselves No. 1,  but its not true.. there can not be over a million No.1’s can there?

Really how would they measure it anyways? Ive been with a lot of other hosting companys in the past, and a handful ive used all had the same uptime and service level,  those hand full can not be all No.1  so IMO  I could not say any of them were No.1

My opinion anyways

D.

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Jared Hirst
Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:53 PM
To: Chris Legg
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iiNet hosting out

I would have thought an asx listed company would be number 1 ;-)

On Thursday, December 18, 2014, Chris Legg <cdlegg at iinet.net.au <mailto:cdlegg at iinet.net.au> > wrote:

Hi Matthew

After this my clients are thinking of some redundancy for their hosting. Regarding your signature, what makes you #1 for hosting? (as in how is that measured?)

Chris

On 18/12/2014 4:40 PM, ANSA SERVERS wrote:

Rofl they should leave the hosting to the people who know what they are doing (like me) and concentrate on being an ISP   

Just my 10 cents

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On 18 Dec 2014, at 6:52 pm, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shane at 2000cn.com.au');> > wrote:

On 18/12/14 15:46, Chris Legg wrote:

Wonder if thats what they are going to put on the outage description? LOL

I just contacted a friend who works in tech support and the official

statement was "Mate, it's really broken!"

On 18/12/2014 3:41 PM, Shane Chrisp wrote:

On 18/12/14 14:01, Chris Legg wrote:

Thanks for the heads up Chris. We just had a number of calls from

clients who have email with us, but dns etc is hosted with iinet.

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