[AusNOG] Telstra + Pacnet - Just thinking
Joseph Goldman
joe at apcs.com.au
Thu Dec 18 09:23:15 EST 2014
Are your opinions based on their smart Business acumen, or based on
advantage to the industry? Obviously your allowed to have an opinion on
both, good business is good business, but I'm also curious to know how
it may help he current AU marketplace, if you / others think it will?
We used to deal with TPG and PIPE separately for products, but as the
conglomerate is getting bigger and bigger their support and other
factors have fallen badly, so I'm always afraid of mergers of 2 big
entities (especially if I'm a direct customer of 1 or both).
On 18/12/14 09:15, Bevan Slattery wrote:
> Guys,
>
> It would be a great buy for Telstra. For many, many years (since the
> early 90’s) they have been trying to get into Asia in a meaningful way
> with some disasterous results in the 90’s. Pacnet has assets “baked”
> into Asia that Telstra could leverage really well. People on-list
> probably don’t realise how wide and deep Pacnet are in Asia. Landing
> stations/data centres, major subsea cable owner in most major Asian
> countries, with particular strength in HK and Sing and beachhead into
> China (one of the few to operate in China).
>
> Moving some of that NBN$ out of Australia and into Asia. If managed
> well it’s a smart move David Thodey.
>
> Cheers
>
> [b]
>
> From: "hudrob at gmail.com <mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>" <hudrob at gmail.com
> <mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>>
> Date: Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:44 am
> To: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net <mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net>>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>"
> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra + Pacnet - Just thinking
>
> My latest dealing with Telstra haven't been stellar. Routers sent to
> site and the wrong people contacted about them, failing to mention that
> they'd terminated a service in a ready room when the order was for a
> service into a rtack (amnd then not passing on the circuit details so a
> cross-connect could be ordered, misconfiguring routers (including not
> allowing remote access to them for management).
>
> And now I face the prospect of having them take over the datacentre I
> currently have a good deal of kit in...
>
> On 18 December 2014 at 07:09, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net
> <mailto:rendrag at rendrag.net>> wrote:
>
> I couldn't imagine how painful it would to deal with a Telstra
> version of Megaport. When I got TID ADSL connected at home here
> last year, somehow they provisioned it without IPv6 (And that was
> after having to order it EIGHT times, because Telstra didn't bother
> to let me know that the order was being automagically cancelled the
> next day due to a wholesaler having a pending order in for the same
> service).
>
> 30 mins going around in circles to support, and they finally put me
> through to an Engineer who said it was a 2- minute change, but he
> needed me to call sales to ask for it first. Six calls and about 3
> hours of hell later, I FINALLY had someone in sales who knew what V6
> was. Six follow-up calls and six weeks later, I finally got onto an
> Engineer again, who seemed surprised that I was asking when my V6
> would be enabled, as apparently it had been enabled for five weeks -
> just noone ever notified me. Apparently an IPv6 subnet appearing in
> Custdata means V6 has been enabled for the service (Not sure what
> you do if you have multiple services??), and you just need to keep
> checking for it.
>
> Could you imagine going through that EVERY time you spin up a VXC?
> YUCK.
>
>
> On 18 December 2014 at 03:53, Skeeve Stevens
> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
>
> Hmmm...
>
> I know it is speculation... but look at a (maybe) Telstra a year
> from now...
>
> Let's say Telstra owns Pacnet, which means it owns PEN (Pacnet
> enabled Network)... a Virtual X-Connect Fabric, that is already
> interconnected to Megaport and possibly others (anyone like to
> advise?).
>
> If Telstra integrate Pacnet as is, potentially it means VxC
> access to Telstra (Wholesale?) infrastructure on Megaport and
> others... and also access to the pacific fibre network (46,000
> km worth of cable), datacentres overseas which would also
> potentially be on Megaport in places like Singapore, HK, etc.
>
> Honestly... I'd like to see what would come of it... and hope
> that Telstra fully interconnect into a marketplace something
> like the above.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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