[AusNOG] List Charter - Was Re: Glovine Servers OFFLINE!

[Daniel]

Lets just end this thread here,

Matthew should never have opened this thread

Dispite my communications with Matthew this afternoon, we have done NOTHING wrong,

Infact It turns out after our investigations that his customers have secured their servers, and disabled ICMP which Matthew thought our network was down and we suspended him, which was not the case

Moderators can you please close this thread to stop all further disruptions to everyone's busy inboxes?

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark ZZZ Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2014 5:17 PM
To: Reuben Farrelly; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] List Charter - Was Re: Glovine Servers OFFLINE!





----- Original Message -----
> From: Reuben Farrelly <reuben-ausnog at reub.net>
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2014, 15:37
> Subject: [AusNOG] List Charter - Was Re:  Glovine Servers OFFLINE!
> 
> On 10/12/2014 3:20 PM, Paul Julian wrote:
>>  This list isn’t the support forum or helpdesk for Glovine, contact 
>> them  to deal with it, if you can’t get through to them what makes 
>> you think  that people on this list have a back door into their 
>> business for  support needs ?
>> 
>>  There are enough emails going through all of our mailboxes every day  
>> without support issues for ISP’s coming through here as well.
> 
> I suggest it may be a good time to re-visit and re-clarify the list 
> charter.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the charter, it seems the problem is some peoples' ability to have to comply with it.

The moderators are volunteers and aren't (and shouldn't have to be) around 24x7 to moderate peoples' compliance with the charter. People should have enough decorum to self moderate their posts.

(For those who haven't attended the Ausnog conference recently (or at all), David Hughes is doing a short presentation at the end on the mailing list and other statistics. If I recall correctly there are now over 2000 subscribers. So off-topic posts are bothering an awful lot of people.)

>  There seems to have been a bit of discussion and certainly

> some uncertainty about what is deemed on and off topic for this list 
> and who (as a group) would be interested and be a part of it.
> 
> If we compare the NANOG with AusNOG list and the content on both it's

> quite obvious that the former is very operational and ISP focused, and 
> the latter is at times, seems like 
> anything-vaguely-relating-to-networking-in-au is OK - and IMHO worse 
> off because of it.
> 
> Perhaps a SAGE-NETWORKING list (if it exists) would be a better place

> for more of the non-ISP related postings.
> 
> Reuben
> 
> 
> 
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