[AusNOG] Netflix, AWS and Softlayer vs. Australia

[Mark ZZZ Smith]

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>>>   And if they ever faced massive congestion they'll just shape them, 
> as 
>>  you've experienced yourself.
>>        Ain't that the truth. Such a sad future, a spanking new (partial) 
> 
>>  fiber NBN throttled to whatever backhaul costs the ISPs can bear. Don't 
> 
>>  quite call that progress.
>> 
> 
> Well, NBNco had to make the FTTN 

s/FTTN/FTTP/

>network appear to be commercially viable, so 
> they, as the monopoly infrastructure provider, will charge and will be able to 
> charge what they need to.
> 
> Telstra must be rubbing their hands together. They offload their copper and HFC 
> networks, and as they've heavily and will more heavily invest in wireless, 
> NBNco's high wholesale prices are going to make wireless broadband more 
> attractive to consumers, despite its relative inadequacies compared to fixed 
> line technologies. As "Most digital growth is now mobile":
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-future-of-digital-2014-slide-deck-2014-12#-79
> 
> 
> and "Mobile video is booming ...":
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-future-of-digital-2014-slide-deck-2014-12#-82
> 
> 
> and therefore everything is optimised for the common case of mobile, the 
> technical benefits of fixed line lose a lot of their value.
> 
> (And here is another presentation from May from the VC firm that where early 
> investors in Google, Facebook, Amazon, Juniper etc., etc. that says the same 
> sorts of things):
> 
> "Internet Trends 2014" -
> http://www.kpcb.com/internet-trends
> 
> 
> 
>>>   Or offer some cheap all-you-can-eat netflix package as ISPs around the 
> 
>>  world have handled it (actually with more than just netflix, in EU Usenet 
> caused 
>>  similar issues 15 years ago, then ISP-offered TV streaming 10 years ago, 
> again 
>>  to combat lack of multicast otherwise).
>>        I don't see how this would help the ISPs since they'd still 
> have 
>>  to eat the cost of domestic backhaul for any included services.
>> 
>> 
>>>   Likewise with SL, they won't actually allow a bunch of kids paying 
> 
>>  $200/mo to push Gbps of traffic even over peering. You'll probably find 
> the 
>>  20TB currently being offered in Melbourne is just there so it looks 
> seemless 
>>  with their other locations (ignoring the +$50 for it), if it gets abused it 
> will 
>>  be back to 2TB for +$50, or 20TB for +500 which they've done before 
> when 
>>  people abused them.
>>        This is actually news to me. Do you have any sources I can read? 
> I've 
>>  had no problems so far in Singapore which also includes the 20TB per server 
> as a 
>>  baseline and that's not a low cost market either. Been with SL in 
> Singapore 
>>  since they opened.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> 
>>  Baz
>> 
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