[AusNOG] SEA-ME-WE 3 cut again

Paul van den Bergen paul.vandenbergen at gmail.com
Tue Dec 2 14:28:51 EST 2014


when I was studying geology back in the day, cable cuts in Hawaii were a
valuable tool to map underwater turbidity flows associated with earthquakes
to help understand slope stability....

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
wrote:

> The challenge with SMW3 is that the segment from about 200km south of
> Indonsia all the way to Singapore is in less than 60m of water depth (about
> 1,400km).  Ideally cables are deeper than 2,000m of water depth away from
> anchors and long-line fisherman :)
>
> The other challenge is that some sections of this route it is almost
> impossible to bury due to the ocean floor being rocky and not ideal for
> burial.  Sometimes there is an alternate route, but it would add
> significant latency, something that people in 99% of circumstances prefer.
> The 1% of the time they don’t mind latency is when the cable is not
> functioning due to a shunt fault or a cut, which could have been avoided if
> they went the more safer, less commercial route :)
>
> There is a history of intentional cable cut/theft in these waters by
> people initially interested in the perceived copper/raw materials.  There
> is a notorious stretch between two (2) islands in which nearly all cables
> pass and due to the rock formations and depth these cables can’t be buried
> and are easily damaged either intentionally or otherwise.  Despite the
> investment in education and armouring things still happen.  An example can
> be found here:
>
>
> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/06/29/indosat-spends-rp-10-billion-replacing-stolen-underwater-cable.html
>
> Also I think last time there was a combination of factors being a
> shunt/cut and a repeater “pop” needing two (2) permits to complete.  Others
> on the list would have a better background as to what happened last time
> and what is happening this time.  I will make some calls and get an ETA.
>
> Cheers
>
> [b]
>
>
> From: Phill Proud <phill at proud.id.au>
> Date: Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:08 pm
> To: Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SEA-ME-WE 3 cut again
>
> That's my understanding of the last delay, I assumed it might face similar
> issues this time.
>
> Hopefully I'm just being a little too pessimistic!
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com> wrote:
>
>>  Wasn't the last cut's delay due to the repair boat not being able to
>> enter Indonesian waters?
>> ITNews seems to think that won't be an issue any more and it should be
>> repaired by 6pm Perth time.
>>
>>
>> On 02/12/14 11:36, Phill Proud wrote:
>>
>>  Given the fault location it's hard to imagine it being repaired much
>> faster than the last cut.
>>
>>  Phill
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Eric Appelboom <eappelboom at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, FYI
>>>
>>> SEA-ME-WE 3 was cut again this Sunday.
>>> Were seeing double the roundtrip that we saw when compared the the
>>> outage last year July which took eight weeks to repair.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>  ---snip
>>> As spoke over the phone, the increased in latency or RTD is related to
>>> submarie cable fault [SMW3 S3.3(Perth - BU)]. Path between Korea and
>>> Australia has been changed to traversing KR <> JP <> AU/Sydney <> AU/Perth,
>>> thus additional delay is expected.
>>>
>>> The fault has been detected on 11/30 0339 UTC and is located at about
>>> 1155 km from Singapre TUAS cable station near tha Jakarta branching unit.
>>> Cable repair schedule is to be advised once available.
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