[AusNOG] Vocus Hazard Notice - Hawaii Tropical Storms

Mark Foster blakjak at blakjak.net
Sat Aug 9 09:13:38 EST 2014


I would contend that if you work in network or ISP/systems operations 
roles and can't readily convert from your own timezone to UTC and back, 
you have bigger issues.

Most obviously, when working with people in other timezones, if both of 
you can work back to UTC you have no issues.  Also, anyone working 
across multiple timezones will appreciate the consistency of UTC.

Heck, cutting my teeth on the helpdesk floor, handling abuse@ traffic 
required readily converting timezones when working with email headers 
and such...

Adding the option to select a local timezone is useful (and props for 
doing so), but people complaining? :/

Mark.

On 08/08/14 18:40, James Spenceley wrote:
> We originally used UTC as we would have customers in one location in terms of their NOC department (say USA) but local ops/engineering hands/feet in Sydney with actual services in Singapore, Perth, Sydney and Auckland. When they asked for local time it was quiet confusing as to what they actually meant by local. So the simple answer was to use UTC
>
> We had a lot of customers complain that UTC just added another step in the process (and one that someone could mess up converting) so we added the  feature for you to be able to set your own timezone. Makes it really simple in the end.
>
> James
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 8 Aug 2014, at 11:39, Andrew Jones <aj at jonesy.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I wasn't clear - that setting is there, and able to be used _right now_.
>>
>> My notifications, for example, look like this:
>>
>> Start Date: Thursday 7th August 2014 at 23:49 (Australia/Sydney)
>> End Date: Wednesday 13th August 2014 at 10:00 (Australia/Sydney)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 08.08.2014 11:36, Mailing Lists wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Thanx for the feedback, I've passed it on to the GM of Network Ops.
>>>
>>> Jonesy, the dev guys will want to kill me, but I'll see if there is
>>> something we can do about that. It could be possible to make it a
>>> check box in the portal as that gets rolled out... Maybe.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Damien.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
>>> <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 on .ics file
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Andrew Jones
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 8 August 2014 11:15 AM
>>>>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Hazard Notice - Hawaii Tropical Storms
>>>>>
>>>>> There should be a link at the bottom of your notification where you can
>>>>> change your preferences, including which timezone to display the time in.
>>>>> I really appreciate the attached .ics file as well, makes it easy to throw the
>>>>> events in a calendar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08.08.2014 10:11, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:
>>>>>> I have been mightily impressed with the amount of information from
>>>>>> vocus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UTC has been a pain but I would rather have relevant info then find
>>>>>> out afterwards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FROM: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] ON BEHALF OF
>>>>>> Bevan Slattery
>>>>>>   SENT: Friday, 8 August 2014 7:00 AM
>>>>>>   TO: Skeeve Stevens
>>>>>>   CC: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>>>>>   SUBJECT: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Hazard Notice - Hawaii Tropical Storms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love seeing these types of notices. They show an operator being
>>>>>> transparent and prepared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading Facebook posts Guam had a typhoon last week also. It is the
>>>>>> season and they almost never have impact, but they can be a risk
>>>>>> particularly with the severity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If only there was a forecast of idiots with backhoes :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   [b]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On 8 Aug 2014, at 12:10 am, Skeeve Stevens
>>>>>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thought this was worth notification to all of Ausnog since there are
>>>>>>> a lot of people using Vocus and a level below being directly
>>>>>>> connected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Start Date: Thursday 7th August 2014 at 13:49 (UTC) End Date:
>>>>>>> Wednesday 13th August 2014 at 00:00 (UTC)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please note that during the above window an upstream supplier has
>>>>>>> advised Vocus of a hazard condition for Australia-USA and
>>>>>>> NewZealand-USA submarine cables due to Hurricane Iselle and Tropical
>>>>>>> Storm Julio over Hawaii. At the moment, indications are that the most
>>>>>>> affected will be the Big Island (Spencer Beach Cable Station) and to
>>>>>>> a lesser extent Oahu (Kahe Point Cable Station).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The most likely impact to the cable stations would be loss of utility
>>>>>>> power to the facilities at some stage. However, as both sites have
>>>>>>> emergency plants and fuel supplies have been topped up, no loss of
>>>>>>> power is anticipated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vocus will supply further updates on this hazard condition as they
>>>>>>> become available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SKEEVE STEVENS - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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