[AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention

[Damian Guppy]

So i see they keep saying data will be held for 2 years, does this include
full url history as well? Because in the UK they went for just 4 days
retention, presumably because of the absurd amount of data that would mean
they would have to collect. Anyone have any idea how much data that would
be? I suspect it is a great time to be a storage vendor.

--Damian


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a good application for a "data diode" style thing for the
> storage at least.
> Just dump all the logs to disk in a system that is physically only able to
> accept data.
> Any requests for data get put onto usb stick and posted back ;->
>
>
>
> On 06/08/14 11:33, Jonathan Thorpe wrote:
>
>> The point I'm making is that it doesn't make it immune to the USA Patriot
>> Act.  Under the broad terms of protecting Americans from "terrorism", the
>> mere fact that the service is operated by a US company, even though it's
>> hosted overseas provides US jurisdiction over the data.
>>
>> We should be very concerned about the storage of this sort of data and
>> where it could end up. It's a huge treasure trove of information waiting to
>> be compromised. It's a massive target with substantial unrecoverable costs,
>> so people aren't going to want to go out of their way to provide extreme
>> measures of security around it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Bradley Amm
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 11:20 AM
>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention
>>
>> Amazon Glacier has Australian based storage
>> http://aws.amazon.com/glacier/
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Bradley Amm
>> 11 Delawney St Balcatta WA 6021
>> P 08 6241 4404 F 6241 4455 M 0448 815 710 W www.homegroupwa.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Jonathan Thorpe
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:12 AM
>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention
>>
>> I'm sure the NSA and friends able to enact the Patriot Act will agree :)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Bradley Amm
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 10:53 AM
>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention
>>
>> Amazon Glacier for the win :) for this
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Terry
>> Sweetser (SkyMesh CTO)
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 7:24 AM
>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention
>>
>> TIA expenses should be invoiced to the agency requesting them, so I hope
>> we're all planning to invoice the agency asking for logs on new shiny NASs
>> we're all buying for data retention.
>>
>> http://about.me/terry.sweetser
>>
>> On 05/08/14 22:14, Matt Perkins wrote:
>>
>>> I considered putting the carbon tax separately on hosting bills some
>>> years back until lawyers said it was to hard. Perhaps now it's time to
>>> consider at data retention levy.  Anyone else with me ?
>>>
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