[AusNOG] IPv6 Training

Bevan Slattery bevan at slattery.net.au
Wed Oct 23 09:28:55 EST 2013 

I also had an email from SAGE-AU that are also following up  (should have
read my email top down!).  Will follow up with them and if it's good then
that maybe as effective.

Cheers

[b]

From:  Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
Date:  Tuesday, 22 October 2013 9:30 PM
To:  Sean Finn <sean.finn at ozservers.com.au>
Cc:  Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>,
"ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>, Elly Tawhai <elly at apnic.net>,
Champika <champika at apnic.net>
Subject:  Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 Training

Yes and not yet :)  Elly from Apnic and I were working in August to get this
sorted, but unfortunately our calendars hadn't since connected in Sept/Oct.
Almost all my fault due to travel and end of year results/meetings/AGM's.
But APNIC has my full support and money for the program.  Won't be back in
.au for a few weeks at the moment but happy for Apnic and Skeeve to take the
lead and simply be the donor ­ unless it can wait until I'm back.

Cheers

[b]

From:  Sean Finn <sean.finn at ozservers.com.au>
Date:  Tuesday, 22 October 2013 6:20 PM
To:  Bevan Slattery <bevan.slattery at nextdc.com>
Cc:  Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>, Bevan Slattery
<bevan.slattery at nextdc.com>, "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject:  Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 Training
Resent-From:  Bevan Slattery <bevan.slattery at nextdc.com>

Did anything ever happen with this?


On 5 Mar 2013, at 11:51 pm, "Bevan Slattery" <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com>
wrote:

> Hey  Skeeve,
> 
> Firstly, not kidding about the shirt :)
> 
> I've already had approaches from AUSNOG, WAIA and SAGE-AU.  More than happy to
> get ISOC-AU on board as well to support this with their name and members.
> 
> My focus is to get a great program together without the fluff,  but I think it
> will be needed to be done in a single day and get as many bums on seats as
> possible.  You're right the key is content/structure and presenters.
> 
> I'm open to solutions.  I like the AUSNOG conference "footprint" with tables
> and chairs.  I'm not sure how people are open to paying for the lunch/venue
> cost of  $85 per person and the money is used for PA hire, venue subsidy,
> content, name tags and event management. etc.  Spoke to an event person and
> they said you really need to charge something just so there is a "commitment".
> Can fit 200 people in Sydney and Melbourne.  Probably 100 in Brisbane,
> Adelaide and Perth.  So maybe up to 700 IPv6 "better educated" people.  Other
> option is find a place in the city where people can just go out for a
> lunch/snack somewhere.
> 
> Really want the focus on this to be content/education, SME IT guys to ISP geek
> heads as well as bums on seats.  Completely agree with CPE "good, bad and
> ugly".
> 
> We'll take this off list from this point and if people have thoughts on
> program, venues and speakers then I ask that you shoot them to Skeeve (if
> you're OK with it) and myself.  We will follow this up with AUSNOG, WAIA,
> SAGE-AU off-list.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [b]
> 
> 
> 
> From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 11:17 PM
> To: Bevan Slattery <bevan.slattery at nextdc.com>
> Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 Training - Peace
> Resent-From: Bevan Slattery <bevan.slattery at nextdc.com>
> 
>> Bevan, 
>> 
>> It is a nice offer, although I fear you will be descended upon by number of
>> organisations with $$ in their eyes.
>> 
>> That figure is extremely generous, but I am absolutely sure that training can
>> be done for a hell of a lot less than that ($5000/day).  Perhaps lowering the
>> budget would allow a little regional coverage too.
>> 
>> Before anyone starts trying to claim money, I'd like to see what people think
>> the programme should look like, and who'd offer to do some pro-bono
>> training.... this shouldn't be an opportunity for people to attempt to make
>> some quick cash, especially with your generous donation.  I'd like to see
>> other donations as well, of peoples time who'd be willing to do some
>> training... especially some ISPs helping others learn from their experiences.
>> 
>> Things that should could be covered: (initial ideas)
>> 
>> - What do all the acronyms mean?
>> - IPv6 Transition Explained - 4in6, 6in4, 6over4, DS-Lite, 6rd, 6to4, ISATAP,
>> NAT64, Teredo, SIIT, TSP, IVI
>> - CGN/LSN - who, what, why, how?  Ports ports, I'm running out of ports.
>> - Turning on IPv6 on your transit (simple I know, but you still need to know
>> it) - Peering covered too
>> - Security - Don't turn on IPv6 until you evaluate your security regime and
>> replicate it
>> - IPv6 your core.. Dual Stack/Layer 2/OSFPv3/ISIS - Juniper, Cisco covered at
>> least. Maybe Brocade?
>> - WAMP and LAMP with IPv6 - what works, what doesn't
>> - DNS and IPv6 (Invite Mark Andrews?) - DNS64, etc.
>> - IPv6 and Mail
>> - Carrier Technology - doing IPv6 with DSL (obviously different vendors need
>> to be considered - maybe Internode/iiNet could help)
>> - IPv6 and Radius - Best Practices
>> - OSS Considerations with IPv6 - things to think about
>> - Virtualisation and IPv6 ?
>> - CPE's - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
>> - CDN/etc technology?  I know F5 do something... who knows?
>> 
>> While some of the money can be used for venues... theres a lot of places with
>> decent size for $1000 for the day... maybe some could be used to fly some
>> people to different cities to deliver the information?  Those who are
>> offering their time pro-bono just as you've offered cash should be considered
>> first.
>> 
>> Maybe this is something we could talk to some of the vendors about as well.
>> Offer them to turn up, meet with those who use their kit and maybe take some
>> of it off-line?  Just an idea.
>> 
>> APNIC normally charge for this sort of training... and theirs doesn't cover a
>> lot of the above.... so not sure there.  They may have a venue in Brisbane
>> though?
>> 
>> The Internet Society of Australia would love to be involved (I am a Director
>> along with Paul Brooks, Narelle Clark who are also active on this list) - not
>> really sure... but I am certain we could provide some content, and give our
>> name as a supporter of the event.  I also expect Google would be interested
>> in some way, there are some great people over there (one is an ISOC-AU
>> Director as well).  Anyway, I'd love to see an event supported by a dozen
>> organisations... maybe providing venues, etc etc.
>> 
>> Well, I think that is enough to start off the discussion anyway.
>> 
>> ...Skeeve
>> 
>> Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>> <http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/>
>> 
>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>> 
>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks>  ;
>> <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
>> 
>> twitter.com/networkceoau <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>  ; blog:
>> www.network-ceo.net <http://www.network-ceo.net/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Experts Who The Experts Call
>> 
>> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Bevan Slattery <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Ok.  So I've had a rant and think I'm done.  The reality is nothing is
>>> going to change for better or for worse for the IPv4 world.  Being (very)
>>> upset is not going to change it.
>>> 
>>> SoŠ
>>> 
>>> We need to get IPv6 promoted and not just once a year for IPv6 day.  So
>>> here's a thought:
>>> 
>>> We get together not just get ISP's/content guys and host'ies, but also
>>> vendors both big iron (Cisco, Brocade, Juniper etc.) and small tin
>>> (residential CPE types).  Could be for a day or two (2).  People need
>>> education and training not just ISP's but also IT integrators for SME
>>> market place.
>>> 
>>> If it helps, I'm happy to personally put up $50,000 to either one big
>>> training session for a few days in a capital city (east coast) or $10,000
>>> for each of the 5 cities (Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth)
>>> for a training day for same people.
>>> 
>>> Open to suggestions on who to run it (WAIA in WA?) or anyone at APNIC or
>>> even AusNog ;)  Prepared to put my money where my (big) mouth is and give
>>> up buying a /20 on eBay to promote IPv6.
>>> 
>>> Open to the not-for-profits to come up with the ideas and the popular vote
>>> wins.  But it must be free or minimal costs for attendees and only vendors
>>> that have IPv6 compliant equipment and IPv6 running website are allowed to
>>> attend and promote.
>>> 
>>> It's there if people want to promote it and I'm happy with the format.
>>> 
>>> Peace
>>> 
>>> [b]
>>> 
>>> I'll even wear an "I love Skeeve T-Shirt".  Sorry mate.
>>> 
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