[AusNOG] Transit over Megaport - who?

[Skeeve Stevens]

Hey Brent,

I don't think it removes the cost of cross-connects, but it certainly makes
it a hell of a lot cheaper.

>From what one of the guys at MP told me, intra-dc will be $100/mth... which
when you look at places like Equinix which does Fibre at $290/mth - this
will essentially third that for permanent connections.

I'm not sure of the final numbers, but Bevan mentioned $20/day (as opposed
to $200/mth) if you only want a short term connection up and running.

The trick here will be for Megaport to automate this so smoothly that VxC's
are brought online VERY quickly.. perhaps even have non-active
pre-provisioned ones (with VLAN's, etc) between two points, ready to come
up at a moments notice.

The datacentres these Cross-Connect fee savings will help massively will be
places like Globalswitch with their insane install costs, ongoing monthlies
and maze of suites run by different people with different rules.

...Skeeve

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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Brent Paddon <brent.paddon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Absolutely.  To be honest I see it as just another crossconnect - we
> already have a number of customers in both GS and Equinix directly
> connected.  This will just make it a bit easier (removing cost of internal
> xconnects) and make it easier for us to sell (and buy from) others in DC's
> that we dont have a current presence in (eg S1, etc).  Bring it on I say :)
>
> Bevan disrupting the status quo (his specialty I think) ... :)
>
> Brent
>
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> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Brent,
>>
>> You guys going to offer any of your products on Megaport VxC?
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Brent Paddon <brent.paddon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Its certainly going to change the way we all buy (and sell) services to
>>> each other.  Definitely going to break down the current somewhat high
>>> inter-DC connectivity costs.
>>>
>>> I think the model that they've come up with is a winner and I'd be
>>> awfully surprised if there isn't a significant amount of traffic (mainly on
>>> the VXC's) pretty shortly...as soon as the rollout has reached that
>>> critical mass.
>>>
>>> I expect to see a LOT more connectivity between people (especially for
>>> those selling aggregation ports / last-mile access products), transit,
>>> cloudy stuff, etc.  The current pain-in-arse of being in different DC's is
>>> pretty much going to go away.  Heck, we all know what the cost of
>>> cross-connects _inside_ DC's is like at the moment.
>>>
>>> I also think that forcing people to go 10G is a smart move.
>>>
>>> We have our testing port up and running in Equinix - but yet to do any
>>> VXCs.   Hopefully bringing on a Brisbane port shortly.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> Brent Paddon
>>> Director
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Macca,
>>>>
>>>> I know you say unaffiliated, but I also know this product of Megaport
>>>> directly competes with Vocus fibre to a certain degree.
>>>>
>>>> Let's be honest... we're not talking running things over peering
>>>> here... I really don't see any quality difference running a VLAN over layer
>>>> 2 Vocus/AAPT/Pipe/others and Megaport...   sounds more like a scare tactic
>>>> to be honest.  Unless you have insight that you would like to share
>>>> (honestly, I'd like to know)
>>>>
>>>> If we are talking dark vs. layer 2, then I would agree.... but I am
>>>> also not suggesting everyone run absolutely everything over one Megaport
>>>> connection... go dual feeds if you want.. I am sure they'd sell it.  But...
>>>> I see something interesting here, and I see it as the future of how
>>>> inter-dc connections will be one - whether it is Megaport, or Vocus or Pipe
>>>> get in on the game too... I see it as a great idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>
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>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM, McDonald Richards <
>>>> McDonald.Richards at vocus.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  All my mission critical services on the one physical port and
>>>>> cabling? I can't wait!
>>>>>
>>>>>  Macca
>>>>> (unaffiliated in this context)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/10/2013, at 3:24 PM, "Skeeve Stevens" <
>>>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   OK all,
>>>>>
>>>>>  The time is arriving for DC-Virtual Cross-Connects to become a
>>>>> useful part of our ISP lives.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Whether it is Megaport, or other fibre providers who choose to
>>>>> replicate the model, the Megaport one is what we've got at the moment, and
>>>>> we might as well start using it.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've been having a few discussions with people about buying
>>>>> connectivity (not just transit) over the Megaport VxC fabric, but I am not
>>>>> sure if anyone out there has productised the selling of products over the
>>>>> VxC fabric.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I know people like Amazon AWS will now allow you to connect to them
>>>>> over Megaport with a Direct Connect... and that is great.
>>>>>
>>>>>  What I am looking for are some transit providers who are on, or
>>>>> getting on Megaport, who will sell either Transit or Wholesale services
>>>>> over the fabric.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I was at an event recently, when Jason Ashton said that he was
>>>>> willing to do BigAir wholesale interconnects over Megaport - and that is an
>>>>> awesome start.  What I would love to see is people like AAPT, iSeek, M2 and
>>>>> others be able to sell more wholesale tails over this fabric.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Transit should be an easy one. for $200 intrastate between any
>>>>> connected DC's, with capacity up to the connection of your pipe (10Gb or
>>>>> 100Gb), I see people selling transit as a no-brainer.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are doing this and want to announce it here, awesome... or if
>>>>> you don't want to announce yet, but happy to let me know - I will keep it
>>>>> quiet until you are ready to announce it.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Also... other IXs... Pipe, Australia IX, Equinix Peering - have you
>>>>> thought of connecting to Megaport for the VxC, so people can actually use
>>>>> the Megaport fabric to get onto your IX as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>>  *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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