[AusNOG] FYI : Attackers are accessing routers running on the border gateway protocol (BGP) and injecting additional hops
Luke Iggleden
luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au
Mon Nov 25 10:33:38 EST 2013
On 25/11/2013 10:15 am, Beeson, Ayden wrote:
> I'd assume it boils down to one of three things:
>
> 1. A lack of training or understanding of the concept / impact.
> 2. It was put open to get it going / fix a problem and they just haven't fixed it.
> 3. A lack of time / staffing to do a job properly.
>
> Of course, we all know how important it is but unless the techs making the change / the managers pushing for jobs to be completed understand, it'll get ignored.
>
> There is always option 4, they just don't care about security till it costs them, but the cost involved in doing this properly is fairly minimal so I doubt in most cases that's the issue...
>
> Thanks,
> Ayden Beeson
>
Spot on I reckon Ayden.
Wonder if enforcing a lower local-pref on large backbone networks for
BGP peers that haven't included a filter-list or migrated to it would
assist in motivating peers to implement best practises.
My concern is if the threat continues to grow, network admin's will look
at announcing /24 or smaller (to domestic peering networks eg) to limit
the potential for hijacking, growing the Global Routing Table
exponentially.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Luke Iggleden
> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 8:19 AM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] FYI : Attackers are accessing routers running on the border gateway protocol (BGP) and injecting additional hops
>
> On 24/11/2013 8:45 pm, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Daniel Hood <dsmhood at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Whats the easiest way one could monitor their netblocks to make sure there is no funny business going on in their paths?
>>
>> BGPMon, as Scott Howard noted, and Renesys are both good services, and there are others, as well.
>>
>
> These services undoubtedly are good for detection, but by the time you get in contact with $insert_isp to get a prefix withdrawn the damage is already done.
>
> It still amazes me after all these years large backbone networks trust smaller BGP peers with open filters.
>
> There are many ways to automate filters, why don't they implement them?
> My bet is until it costs them x (due to legal or direct attack), they don't want to spend x (in prevention), sounds like a typical security scenario to me.
>
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