[AusNOG] Updated list charter

[Geordie Guy]

tl;dr - Is there a strategy for when the management of AusNOG feel the
membership charter has been raised and re-raised so it accurately reflects
the organisation's final standards but people from time to time scream
about suing/getting their dad to bash us anyway because some people are
just like that?

Full version -
I'm curious to know from the board if there were any actions taken on the
*other* side of what happens when an organisation encounters legal
threats.   Updating the member charter is I guess an important step if
you're threatened over the action of your members, because if things DO go
wrong down the track and you wind up in front of a bloke in a wig with a
frock you can point to the additional actions you took to try and appease
the person starting legal fights.  In addition to the defense against
upsetting people though, the other half of really great organisational
management is ensuring that if your reasonable steps to adhere a membership
body to a code of conduct aren't enough to someone who chooses to be
unreasonable, that you have plan B - usually a relationship with a legal
professional, probably who'll assist on a reduced fee or no fee basis.

People will from time to time have their feelings hurt and will wave
lawyers in the direction of other people, and half of good organisation
management is ensuring that feelings aren't hurt. But the other half, and
what makes great management, is drawing a line under behavioural
expectations and be willing to defend organisational culture. If this part
of it isn't here, or some strategy to similar effect isn't here, you wind
up with a fairly lifeless organisation that hides under the stairs every
time there's stomping feet in the hallway.  That'd be sad.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>wrote:

> It’s nothing to do with that Peter – it’s about the very deliberate abuse
> of this list & of myself recently by Skeeve Stevens.
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Peter
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> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 November 2013 9:10 AM
> *To:* surfer at mauigateway.com
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Updated list charter
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> Some companies just refuse to believe it's 2013 with social media.
> Information will get out one way or another. Not even governments are safe.
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> On 23/11/2013 6:08 AM, "Scott Weeks" <surfer at mauigateway.com> wrote:
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> Recently the AusNOG board faced a situation that might have
> resulted in a court action naming AusNOG Pty Ltd, and its
> directors, as a result of posts that occurred on the list.
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> Wow, I can't believe this happened.  Some companies have more
> time and money than brains.  Where do they think all those
> folks will go to express their frustration if not here?  Do
> they think by suing folks that did nothing wrong will just
> stop the expression of frustrations, or do they understand
> that folks will go to the next mailing list and say the same
> things?  Will they try to sue everyone on every mailing list
> until they 'gain compliance' from everyone?  Some people have
> zero clue, that's for sure...  <8-/
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> scott
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> ps. those're rhetorical questions meant for the folk with more
> time and money than brains.
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