[AusNOG] Consensus from the IETF 88 Technical Plenary - Internet hardening

[Geordie Guy]

Oh wait I just looked you up on LinkedIn.  Nevermind.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Geordie Guy <elomis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gross overreaction?  I'm curious to hear more about how a national scale
> warrantless surveillance system, the bugging of the phone of foreign heads
> of state and the hacking of some of the Internet's most important company's
> datacenter interconnects doesn't warrant encryption.  What do you think
> would've been an appropriate response?  No ice cream after dinner and
> straight to bed?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dobbins, Roland <rdobbins at arbor.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I can't say I'm disappointed in this resolution. Should have happened a
>> long time ago.
>>
>> The problem with overencryption of this magnitude is that besides the
>> additional overhead, it makes dealing with DDoS attacks and other security
>> issues considerably more difficult in terms of detection, classification,
>> traceback, and mitigation, not to mention broadening the attack surface and
>> providing a non-insignficant impact amplification, due to crypto overhead.
>>
>> On top of that, it's useless - the spooks and spies (not to mention the
>> ODCs) simply bypass it all and get everything en clair from the endpoints
>> themselves.
>>
>> This is a bad move; a gross over-reaction that, if implemented (which I
>> doubt it will be), will degrade the overall security posture of the
>> Internet to a significant degree.
>>
>> There are no technical solutions to social ills.  If this comes to pass,
>> we will all regret it.
>>
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>> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
>>
>>           Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
>>
>>                        -- John Milton
>>
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