[AusNOG] IPv6 reverse DNS and Mail ...

[Joshua D'Alton]

Unless you're in Bangladesh or Manila.


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, <Tom.Minchin at csiro.au> wrote:

> Cept you can't bribe the Office 365 or Google Apps faceless flunkies with
> chocolate or beer...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim March [mailto:march.tim at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 06:13 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 reverse DNS and Mail ...
>
>
> You guys both forgot the bit where all the IT operations managers
> finally get the sh!ts with system flunkies arguing about SMTP and move
> everything to Google Apps or Office 365 =)
>
> http://vimeo.com/20490303
>
> K, GO!
>
>
>
> T.
>
> On 23/05/13 5:31 PM, Noel Butler wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-05-23 at 16:13 +1000, Karl Auer wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Um, I think you may have missed the point there. When all IPv6 forwards
> >> have a valid reverse, the lack of such will be no indication of
> >> spamminess at all.
> >>
> > If that day ever comes, and I doubt it, given, most can't even get it
> > right on IPv4,  then, it will be one less process in many.
> >
> >> blur. Stances like yours, which presume such distinctions and seek to
> >> disadvantage (even if for the very best of reasons) those belonging to
> >> the "lesser" class, will become untenable.
> >>
> >
> > So be it, I can't understand why some expect those with as tight a ship
> > as they can possibly run (because there are always limits), to dumb it
> > down, just for the tiny minority who in most the part CBF even looking
> > at if they can resolve their compliance issues.
> >
> >> The presumption there is that it is they who need to get their act
> >> together. That assumption, with it's inherent co-assumption that they
> >> need you more than you need them, is one that the coming decade may
> >> challenge...
> >>
> > Maybe, maybe not. If those responsible - the sys admins (so most likely
> > hardly anyone on this list since they are in the minority here as most
> > are, or were, before certain media types publicised this list and we
> > ended up with whingepoolers etc, network engineers, who would not have
> > DNS in their daily responsibilities) did their job, or were educated
> > (since we all know in small business often one employee has many hats,
> > including server administration, and likely would be unaware of things
> > like this).
> >
> > Which is why I will not change my anti-spam measures for IPv6, like I
> > hinted previously, else it'll be 1990 all over again.
> > I'm human (yes, that might surprise some - shut up Tom if you're reading
> > this ;)),  I make mistakes, but I learn from them, and try not to repeat
> > them.
> >
> >
> >
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