[AusNOG] Pipe/Equinix Peering Costs

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Sat May 4 23:45:24 EST 2013 

I love how iPrimus peers with AARNet direct, but to get to
mirror.aarnet.edu.au it goes to Pipe Brisbane, then to AARNet, and I think
then back to Sydney.


...Skeeve

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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Brett Wagstaff <bwtricky89 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Should have a look at traceroutes from primus, they're more assuming.
> Leaves primus via pipe in sydney and then enters into their equinix link
> then onto TPG. Either someone has broken something, or stupid peering
> policy kicking in..
>
> 4 xe-0-0-1.csr03.mel.iprimus.net.au (203.134.24.241) [MPLS: Label 665632
> Exp 0] 12 msec
> 5 as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com (218.100.2.40) [AS 18398] 28 msec
> 6 irb-5.bsr01.equ.iprimus.net.au (210.50.143.163) 24 msec
> 7 nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au (203.12.162.238) [AS 7545] 24 msec
>
>
> On 3 May 2013 17:46, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Less of a problem than all international traffic returning via PPC1,
>> adding a good 60ms to eastbound. And unfortunately the routing policies
>> don't seem to differ between residential and commercial (dsl and fiber),
>> though I don't know of any AU provider that does (maybe AAPT before they
>> sold residential?). What exetel do with traffic is interesting too, it
>> might indeed be as Skeeve suggests, the death of pipe peering...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Brett <bwtricky89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You could always do what TPG are current doing and having all PIPE
>>> traffic return via Sydney regardless of state it originates from. It's
>>> quite lovely with what they come up with..
>>>
>>> 1 vl102.cor2.mel6.on.ii.net (150.101.212.246) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>>> 2 gi2-0-0.bdr1.mel6.on.ii.net (150.101.210.138) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 3 te2-0-0.bdr1.cbr1.on.ii.net (150.101.160.173) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 4 xe-0-0-0.cr1.cbr2.on.ii.net (150.101.33.84) 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>>> 5 ae2.br1.syd4.on.ii.net (150.101.33.22) 36 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 6 p7545.syd.equinix.com (202.167.228.79) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 7 nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au (202.7.162.53) 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 12 msec
>>>
>>> 1 gi1-20-102.cor1.adl6.on.ii.net (203.16.215.14) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>>> 2 xe-11-0-0.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net (150.101.225.229) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>>> 3 ae4.br1.syd7.on.ii.net (150.101.33.34) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
>>> 4 as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com (218.100.2.40) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
>>> 5 nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au (203.12.162.238) 20 msec 20 msec
>>> 20 msec
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2013 14:03, Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Skeeve + List,
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in routing policy for each connected peer. Did anyone
>>>> provide insight into how they are electing egress paths?
>>>>
>>>> We local pref equinix due to least cost, however, we seem to have a lot
>>>> more ingress flows via pipe peering.
>>>>
>>>> Are operators local preffing pipe peering over equinix or vice versa or
>>>> are you just letting as-path length decide?
>>>>
>>>> If you're letting AS-PATH decide what is your tie breaker condition (if
>>>> you have one?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29/04/13 9:50 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> More pricing has been added/updated... thanks for the info all.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who were getting a 404.. Welcome to the world of IPv6...
>>>>> whoops.. I was using the wrong IP damnit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Skeeve Stevens
>>>>> <skeeve+ausnog@**eintellegonetworks.com<skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
>>>>> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog@**eintellegonetworks.com<skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>>     OK.. after a pile of responses about peering prices, and almost as
>>>>>     many asking for me to share the info I collected...  I've put it in
>>>>>     a blog post for all to access.
>>>>>
>>>>>     If you have any information about peering pricing that you wish to
>>>>>     share with me privately, but don't mind me adding to the post...
>>>>>     then let me know and I will update it.
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://theispguy.com/**peeringpricing/<http://theispguy.com/peeringpricing/>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Later, I might turn this into a resource that I keep updated.  At
>>>>>     the moment working on a project to document all Australian
>>>>>     datacentres/tail providers... but be patient.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>>     *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>>>>>     On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Skeeve Stevens
>>>>>     <skeeve+ausnog@**eintellegonetworks.com<skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
>>>>>     <mailto:skeeve+ausnog@**eintellegonetworks.com<skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>>         If possible, I am wanting to find out how much Pipe and Equinix
>>>>>         peering costs at the moment for 100mb and 1Gb links.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I know there was some price drops a while ago, but not sure
>>>>> what
>>>>>         the current buy price is.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I could wait till Monday and ask them, but I have to write some
>>>>>         recommendations up over the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Please feel free to reply to me off-list.
>>>>>
>>>>>         ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>>         *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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