[AusNOG] IPv6 -"Nope, we're not at the edge" - Cisco...

[Don Gould]

Oh you've gone nuts!

4in4, 4in6, CGN, the list just doesn't stop...

Here's a radical idea, why don't we just put a publicly visible IP 
address on the stupid little black box and then the SIP packets can just 
hit port 5060?!

Why make me build tunnels in tunnels?

Are we getting a picture for why SMB isn't making advances with v6?

This is exactly the stuff that's driving SMB geeks away.

Personally I got all excited about v6, built my tunnels, found out all 
the issues, went off to look at all the hardware I needed for my current 
projects, discovered no one actually cares about v6 at all, including 
CISCO, threw v6 at the bottom of the list of things to worry about and 
moved on...

Only difference between me and most of the folk in the SMB market, that 
ppl were talking about, is that I'm at least honest or just loud enough 
to just say it.

D



On 6/03/2013 7:04 p.m., Mark Andrews wrote:
> In message <5136C8D7.7000802 at bowenvale.co.nz>, Don Gould writes:
>>
>> On 6/03/2013 5:10 p.m., Craig Askings wrote:
>>> IPv6 support on VoIP / SIP hardware is even worse than most other IT equipm
>> ent vendors.
>>
>> ...and now we're starting to understand why SMB's are dragging feet here
>> on v6.
> You are turning ON IPv6.  You are not turning OFF IPv4.   Turning
> on IPv6 has no impact on IPv4 only equipment.   You can continue
> to use the VoIP hardware in house for the next 20 years.   If you
> are using VoIP hardware to talk to the rest of the world CGN's are
> going to make a big mess for you.
>
>> I just spend most of the last week setting up a VPN cloud at a number of
>> customer sites and reconfiguring my networks so that I can run v4 end to
>> end so we can get them access to our VPS platform so we can host VoIP
>> instances and wireless controller software for them.
> And you can run that IPv4 cloud over 4in4 tunnels or 4in6 tunnels.
> When CGNs start being deployed you will want to use the 4in6 tunnels
> as establishing the 4in4 tunnel will be a pain and may not work.