[AusNOG] IPv4 - Where is the training?

[Don Gould]

Mark

1.  Thank you for taking the time to detail all of this.  I suspect that 
this sort of info needs dumping on lists like this one all the time.

2.  This is why I went looking for a training course just on IPv6.  
Personally I find all the info you posted just over whelming and I don't 
understand how to apply it to my kit (Mikrotik in my case with a healthy 
balance of Linux, Windows and Android devices).

If I find it over whelming, then I wonder how many others are in the 
same boat?

How do we trim all this down to subsets that I actually need to know 
just to operate?

This needs to be in 20 pages, not the 200+ that you just linked.

I need pictures.  I use a GUI configuration tool, not CLI.

I need sample scripts that I can just load on my kit to just see the 
bits fly by and then pull it apart to understand.

Let's get this back in to perspective here...

http://www.3news.co.nz/Staggering-security-lapse-at-WINZ/tabid/1607/articleID/272707/Default.aspx

This is where networking is right now.  People currently don't even know 
how to set up layer 2 vlans though networks in a cost effective way to 
protect public from corporate resources.

I guess what I'm saying is I need the quick start guides, the cheat 
sheets, preconfig scripts, etc.  Where is all that?

D




On 5/03/2013 3:38 p.m., Mark Smith wrote:
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> <snip>
>> People here have said that enterprise is dragging their feet.  Yes we are.  We
>> just don't know how to do this stuff
> There are a number of decent books relating to IPv6, such as "Deploying IPv6 Networks" and "Migrating to IPv6: A Practical Guide to Implementing IPv6 in Mobile and Fixed Networks"
>
> In addition to books, the IETF have published a number of freely available Informational RFCs relating to Enterprise deployment of IPv6. RFCs aren't dry like documents from other standards organisations, so don't be scared away from reading them.
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> "IPv6 Enterprise Network Scenarios"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4057
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> "Use of VLANs for IPv4-IPv6 Coexistence in Enterprise Networks"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4554
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> "IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - IP Layer 3 Focus"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4852
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> "IPv6 Enterprise Network Renumbering Scenarios, Considerations, and Methods"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6879
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> There are also a number of other general advice RFCs, also relevant to Enterprises, such as
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> "IPv6 Unicast Address Assignment Considerations"
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5375
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> "IPv6 Implications for Network Scanning"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5157
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> "Local Network Protection for IPv6"
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4864/
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> "Procedures for Renumbering an IPv6 Network without a Flag Day"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4192
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> "Recommendations for Filtering ICMPv6 Messages in Firewalls"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4890
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> This Internet Draft (pre-RFC, but not guaranteed to be published) provides detail on planning and considerations:
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> "Enterprise IPv6 Deployment Guidelines"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6-02
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>
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> Most of these documents are the product of the IETF IPv6 Operations Working group. Here's their complete list of documents:
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> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/v6ops/
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> One of the soon to be published Internet Drafts of interest to people on this list may be:
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> "IPv6 Guidance for Internet Content and Application Service Providers"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guidance-05


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