[AusNOG] IPv4

[Joshua D'Alton]

Yea 20 years ago. Your OP was along the lines that APNIC is going to make
things worse, when the reality of their dropping the prices is no
difference at all, in fact more likely a positive to the region.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> It was more about the other people that are abusing it from many years
> ago, as Bev mentioned, people sitting on /9’s etc
>
>
>
> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Joshua D'Alton
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:15 PM
> *To:* AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] IPv4
>
>
>
> Yea its called real life and politics. If changing the world only required
> a single email to a single mailing list... well it'd be changing a few
> billion times a day. In this case maybe your one email will result in
> something useful to the community, but quibbling over the potential
> profiteering from the last .5% of IP space might seem petty hence some
> blasting :/
>
>
>
> Just as your "They were customers, once I found out what they were doing.
> They were no longer customers, because I have a very strong view of not
> abusing the system" might seem pretty petty. If you terminated them just
> because of a perceived abuse of the system, seems a bit like shooting
> yourself in the foot. How are you going to buy any of these /22s from
> abusing companies when they won't do business with you?
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Jared Hirst <
> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
> Perfect, that was I guess the main concern I had, and I was blasted and
> told to attend policy meetings to make a change.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of James Spenceley
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:01 PM
> To: Bevan Slattery
> Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv4
>
> One thing I think makes sense from this debate is that people would like a
> well publicized way to report abuse of the system.
>
> That is pretty easily achieved, I'll get on that.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 03/03/2013, at 14:56, Bevan Slattery <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, I'll correct my previous post:
> >
> >
> >> Do I think the RIR's and APNIC have erred here?  You bet.  Do I
> >> actually think they should have done better - absolutely no question.
> >> Do I think they could have done something different? Yep too.
> >
> > That last question I would answer that as "No, but they could have
> tried"
> > :)
> >
> > [b]
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