[AusNOG] APNIC Slashes Costs for New Members

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Sat Mar 2 00:12:02 EST 2013


Why do you care?  It isn't as though they are taking them away from you?

ANY business has the right to be multi-homed and portable.

...Skeeve

*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> Agree, it needs justification but that’s easy to get around.
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> I have a customer that had less than 128 IP’s with us, they applied around
> 6 months ago to APNIC and got a /22 so that they can ‘just have them’ they
> have no plans to use them and I am sure that they are just going to sit on
> them to sell. I approached them and they laughed about the whole depletion
> policy saying ‘someone will come up with a solution’ almost like they have
> NO idea about the seriousness of the final allocation policy.
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> When I reported this to APNIC they did not really have a way to do
> anything about it.
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> Just frustrating that people like us who are using the IP space and need
> it cannot get it and then they offer this to new customers which will
> create more of this ‘un needed’ allocations happening.
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> *From:* Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2013 5:31 PM
> *To:* Damian Guppy
> *Cc:* Jared Hirst; <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] APNIC Slashes Costs for New Members
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> It still has to be justified... but it isn't exactly that hard these days.
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> Portability is the number one justification in my opinion.  Usage is
> second.  And you don't have to justify the usage I believe if you have a
> genuine need for portability (peering, multiple ISPs, etc).
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> ...Skeeve
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>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
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> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is it actually that easy to get an allocation now for smaller companies? I
> was under the impression you still needed to justify 75% use within 6
> months or something, and that it was actually scrutinized. I'm not sure if
> it is even a valid point now that the final allocation policy is active.
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> --Damian
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> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Jared Hirst <
> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
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> How stupid... This is now going to now get more and more people that don't
> need ip's applying for a large allocation which they won't use.....
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> Maybe there is something I am missing but to me this sounds like a recipe
> for disaster.
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> Regards,
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> Jared Hirst
>
> Servers Australia Pty Ltd
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> Phone: 1300 788 862
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> Direct: (02) 4307 4205
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> E-mail: jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au
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> On 01/03/2013, at 4:26 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
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> APNIC has slashed the "IP Resource Allocation Fee" from AU$3500 (ex-GST)
> to AU$1750 (ex-GST).
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> This means a new member can sign-up and get access to IP resources of up
> to a /22 of IPv4, IPv6 space and AS numbers.
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> The cost of becoming a new member (with resources) is now:
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> AU$2425 (ex-GST for Australians)
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> which is: AU$675 (ex-GST) + AU$1750 (ex-GST).
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> Please see the official announcement here:
> http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2013/ip-resource-application-fee-reduction
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> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>
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