[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

[Jake Anderson]

Thinking about it, if highrel is what you are after, depending on any 
one particular tech is going to give a poor result.
IE if PSTN is all you depend on you are subject to backhoe fade just as 
well as fibre.
OK fibre needs battery in the premises as well but for those that *need* 
that which isn't going to be many as a % its not outrageous to supply.

If highrel is what you are after then make a "high reliability" box.
Give it say 24 hours of battery, a fibre/ethernet port, a 2/3G backup 
with high gain antenna and make it a DECT base station.
Sure it might cost $500-$1000, but for the tiny percentage that actually 
need that level of cover it'd be cheap.
Such a device would (or could) be more "reliable" than the PSTN I'd 
wager particularly given the copper we have around here.

On 20/07/13 10:17, Mark ZZZ Smith wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Troy Cowin <troy at perthsystems.com.au>
>> To: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
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>> Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 9:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday
>   - NBN fibre on copper prices
>> How does Telstra handle this now in Velocity estates - AKA Telstra's version
>> of FTTP, I don't have copper my house only fibre. Was given the option of
>> battery backup, but was quoted approx $150 to add the battery, which at the time
>> of building my new home was too much.
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>> Another point to note is I would assume just like any UPS units these batteries
>> would need to be tested periodically and replaced every X years too?
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>> Having had a "grandma myrtle" living at home by herself with a
>> personal alarm that was tied onto her phone line, I would have some real
>> concerns over using an ATA for that. What happens when the ATA crashes or dies
>> completely? Or the power goes off.
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> Going by what my Father and his cohorts were and are capable of (he was 80 when he passed away last year), they're generally quite comfortable with mobile phones.
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> Going by what my Grandmother was capable of (and she passed away at 95 earlier this year), "grandma myrtle" is likely to already be living in 24x7 care, or be living with people who can provide enough care for her that a mobile phone similar to the following is always charged and always working:
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> http://www.ezfmobile.com.au/
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> I think the proportion of the population who are reliant on a fixed line phone and who refuse to or are unable to learn to use a mobile phone is rapidly dwindling. Maintaining a PSTN compatible connection for every home seems to me to be quite a waste of money.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Delany
>> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 11:47 PM
>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday
>> - NBN fibre on copper prices
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>>>   Didn't know that, wonder how that'll all translate over with the
>> NBN though.
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>> More interestingly. How does that (Telstra's CSG mobile substitute for
>> copper) work for folk who need 24x7 safety monitors and the like?
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>> All the hand-wringing over PSTN resilency to failures and here we have
>> presumably thousands of residents around the country connected solely via a
>> mobile service anyway.
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>> Do Telstra roll out PSTN for those customers that need health monitors or do
>> they recommend that the customer move?
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>> As I understand it, these are not just a few rare folk in far flung corners of
>> the country, they are often in new suburbs that haven't rolled copper
>> infrastructure.
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>> Mark.
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