[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

Fri Jul 19 14:46:53 EST 2013

These are starting to become more common here in the US -
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html<http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html#fbid=9QKmNcxYwrl>

Connects to a standard POTS handset (and power), and is charged like a
landline - but the calls go over the mobile network.

Cost is roughly the same as a true landline.

No learning curve as it's exactly the same handset as for a landline.
Includes a battery so it can continue to work (for a while at least) during
a blackout.

  Scott

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Beeson, Ayden <ABeeson at csu.edu.au> wrote:

> Completely agree, using a mobile is a better option in most cases, but
> it's that learning curve, then they have to keep it charged, pay for a
> mobile plan, have service etc.
>
> My in-laws are a prime example (though they don't need the phone for
> medical reasons or anything). They live 20 minutes out of town here, due to
> geographic layout most of the small town / village / community they live in
> gets poor coverage at best, non-existent inside the house (Telstra and
> Optus btw, don't even mention Vodafone out here). They both have mobiles
> but they hate to use them and only turn them on in an emergency (basically,
> broken down on the way to work is about it) and you just don't even try to
> contact them on it cause it's a waste of time.
>
> Also things like that tend to be hard to put numbers against (time or
> cost) so avoiding it makes sense from a planning perspective.
>
> You can get ADSL modem / router / ATA boxes now and it's not hard to
> imagine a GPON Modem / router / ATA in the future but that doesn't exist
> now that I'm aware of, it'd still need a battery backup then too.
>
> Thanks,
> Ayden Beeson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> Jonathan Thorpe
> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 2:25 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day
> yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
>
> Would it really be such a bad idea to encourage these people to use a
> mobile? Politically, of course it would be, but in reality, would it?
>
> If someone really just wants a phone, I'm pretty sure vendors will be
> quick to build plug-n-play devices that provide an analogue voice port at
> one end and a fibre port at the other. Yes, this is effectively a router +
> ATA such as those already available, but does provide a certain level of
> familiarity that these people are looking for.
>
> Similar to an ISDN to Analogue adapter perhaps?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Heinz N
> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 2:04 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day
> yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
>
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Beeson, Ayden wrote:
> >
> > There is also that major point made before, that some people simply
> > require a PSTN service that is reliable and guaranteed.
>
> +1
>
> With NBN, Granny Myrtle McCready will now need a NTU that needs a power
> brick with a battery. She will also need an ATA (which ALSO needs power).
> She can't understand why she needs to have all those extra new fangled
> power cables going to those funny boxes with lights on them. Perhaps
> ditching NBN and getting a mobile would be a MUCH easier solution for her?
>
> In order to save power because of price gouging by electricty suppliers
> and incompetent governments, she turns her electricity off "of the night"
> and wonders why her grand daugther isn't phoning her any more (as well as
> the funny beeping from one of the boxes). Typical dumb politicians trying
> to ram stuff through with no understanding at all on the consequences to
> those least able to cope!
>
> Everyone on this list has no probs configuring any sort of CPE or a more
> substantial router as might be needed to handle multiple ports, as well as
> UPSs etc etc. However, unfortunately _most_ people are still technically
> illiterate and will remain so.
>
> H.
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